today at 1:51 PM
I was doing this on the side for fun and learned a lot.
I believe the professors that helped originate this idea were a group of hacker PhD students from UC Santa Barbara that moved over to Arizona State. Adam Doupe was my professor his first year and an absolutely stellar academic and teacher.
today at 2:48 PM
Wow thank you for the kind words!
Yep I think this list is pretty up to date on the folks involved: https://pwn.college/sensei
And you’re right very good memory! Zardus and I were first PhD students at UCSB then became professors at ASU, and at ASU kanak’s PhD dissertation was on pwn.college
today at 4:03 PM
+1 on this. The courses I took with Adam Doupe were phenomenal and have molded me into the engineer I am today. Many thanks to the team behind pwn.college and pushing us students to think outside the box!
today at 4:56 PM
today at 5:00 PM
I learned a ton through similar exercises on cyberarmy.com back in like 2002. Looks like it is still online: https://www.ca-zeb.com
today at 8:45 AM
Not sure if the devs are here, but please don't justify your text! It makes the lines all have huge spaces in the middle. It's much harder to read as a result.
today at 2:50 PM
Man I said this years ago and was overruled. Many your comment will help convince them!
today at 9:00 AM
Honestly I've just set up a user CSS sheet that forces left justify. It makes the internet more comfortable, and has practically no downsides / bad interactions, unlike many such overrides.
today at 12:01 PM
rivers, contextual word splits, compound noun splits, awkward pauses, there is so many downsides to mindless text justification. Only editorialised and hand crafted justified text is nice. Everything else ends up forceful and ugly.
today at 1:24 PM
Strange that online it fell out of favor, because text justification was the default for centuries. It's still around in most PDFs though, e.g. in research papers.
today at 2:24 PM
When there was a person physically typesetting every line, the justification wasn't generally "mindless"
today at 4:35 PM
Is there a difference between the rules TeX uses and HTML renderers?
today at 5:03 PM
AIUI, yes, most browsers use greedy line breaking by default. E.g., FF does not do Knuth style[1].
This led to the CSS `text-wrap` property, and `text-wrap: pretty`[2], but pretty is not supported in FF yet, and the value `pretty` doesn't mandate Knuth's algorithm.
[1]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=630181
[2]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/P...
today at 3:08 PM
I suspect the print typesetting has largely been automatized for several decades.
today at 1:31 PM
The text justification would look a lot better with CSS "hyphens: auto".
today at 11:38 AM
Don't listen to this. Justified text is much much easier to read.
today at 1:23 PM
When done properly (i.e. in LaTeX with microtype, with good line breaking algorithm and character expansion) justified text is easier to read. The web is not that.
today at 5:53 AM
reminds me of high school trying to beat hackthissite.org, OverTheWire, SmashTheStack
simpler times
today at 6:33 AM
Used to use OverTheWire as assignments in class, it was a big inspiration for pwn.college
today at 3:18 PM
I was gonna say, at a glance it reminds me of Microcorruption CTF
today at 8:28 AM
Why so deferential about posting write-ups? I'd just have a rule that says don't post write-ups and posting a write-up will get you banned from future editions or something.
today at 9:25 AM
Because giving a good reason is usually enough for most people to follow something. Not everything has to be a stick (which you can wield anyway).
today at 9:58 AM
Almost any kind of reason actually.
It's a science-backed result that doing so massively improves compliance, it's a trick usually taught in soft skills training (negotiation, etc).
today at 10:09 AM
"The Mindlessness of Ostensibly Thoughtful Action: The Role of “Placebic” Information in Interpersonal Interaction." https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1979-23568-001
I first read this in Robert Cialdini's "Influence: Science and Practice" which is both entertaining and interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influence:_Science_and_Practic...
today at 12:17 PM
Because in almost every other case that involves security challenges you are generally encouraged to post a writeup, and this one is different.
today at 8:11 AM
We had this as a part of our reverse engineering and exploitation minor, amazing experience.
today at 7:10 AM
It looks very comprehensive, and I love the fact that they will actually send you a belt if you do all the levels.
today at 12:27 PM
It is very comprehensive, and the classes are amazing. I really miss having time to watch the 2h classes and do the challenges.
pwn.college is the most fun I've had in cybersecurity probably ever. The community in discord is also very friendly and helpful.
today at 6:13 AM
Very cool project, reminds me of days playing with owasp webgoat
today at 5:23 AM
Hugged to death.
today at 5:38 AM
The site is still up try a deeper link https://pwn.college/welcome/welcome/
today at 7:57 AM
yes, I know it for years, play with it when I have time. really cool.
this and telehack.com is nice entertainment
today at 12:16 PM
Neat concept, but utterly disgusting that Discord is still used as a social platform. Matrix is much less odious.
today at 1:08 PM
What's wrong with Discord?
today at 1:33 PM
Discord is the ultimate gatekeeper of information these days, and the company behind it cannot be trusted with its user data.
today at 3:14 PM
Besides being a centralized, proprietary data harvesting operation that has slowly started selectively enforcing mandatory identity verification requirements, despite their previous identity verification provider already getting hacked and leaking 70,000 people's PII?
Nothing says "hacker culture" like voluntarily submitting your photo ID and a real-time facial scan to big brother so your de-anonymized communications can be permanently logged and used against you by the state as soon as a future administration decides you're a disfavored person.
today at 6:31 AM
Cool idea.
today at 5:52 AM
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today at 4:53 AM
“ You have entered the pwn.college DOJO, an education platform for learners to develop and practice core cybersecurity skills in a hands-on fashion. Entering, you receive your "white belt" , signifying the beginning of your hacker life.”
today at 4:17 AM
And yet, the highest scores on the scoreboard are 10, which happens to be the score you get by completing the tutorials for using pwn.college.
today at 5:02 AM
each module has it's own scoreboard, so yes, the scoreboard for the tutorial module maxes out at the maximum score for the tutorial module.
today at 7:56 AM
> the scoreboard for the tutorial module maxes out at the maximum score for the tutorial module
This is not a very hacker-like mindset!
today at 8:41 AM
I would claim that if you can set a higher score, my statement would still stand, as you have modified the maximum limit!
today at 9:31 AM
today at 8:33 AM
"The first rule of tautology club is hack the planet"?
today at 12:00 PM
It's maybe should be called something else if this is the case, but don't they show the latest "high scores" or complete finishes of the latest users to complete the module? Might not be high score or at least overall, but do remember noticing that yet seeing my username when I went through this a little while back so felt like more of a misnomer rather than an oversight.