As you can surmise from the domain, this is created by Mr Doob. They're most well known for creating the 3D JavaScript library Three.js: https://threejs.org

Their full site and a lot more cool stuff they've made can be found here: https://mrdoob.com

• treems

  today at 5:50 AM

  Or, best known to others as being the guy that made Gravity Google way back when.

  • gregjw

    today at 7:09 AM

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• skrebbel

  today at 6:15 AM

  And r08064!

• boxed

  today at 6:12 AM

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  • hypfer

    today at 6:22 AM

    There are a lot of opposition-worthy linguistic acrobatics within that space, but default they/them is none of them.

    It works perfectly. It is inoffensive, a drop-in-replacement, doesn't elongate sentences or any other such negative side effects.

    It's real known words not just freshly invented. And it's even semantically correct.

    The they/them swap is the most elegant implementation I am aware of.

    • dakom

      today at 6:44 AM

      His brand is literally "Mr Doob"

      The consensus in English-writing guides like the APA or Elements of Style is about staying true to a person's self-identified pronoun while preferring specificity over ambiguity. In a case where you don't know - "they" is perfectly acceptable. In a case where "they" is an explicit self-identity - it's the only correct option. In this case, where he literally calls himself "Mr", it's stylistically incorrect to choose a more ambiguous pronoun where "he" is the correct one for someone calling themselves "mr"

      • hypfer

        today at 6:48 AM

        Hm. Interesting argument, but I kinda disagree with the premise that "if we have anything exposing gender metadata, the rest of the language around it in a sentence must be pulled into referencing that to be more correct".

        It's a coherent thing to argue for, I'll give you that, but it's also.. kinda arbitrary? And one can make an equally convincing case for statelessness in the sense that just because one word carries metadata, doesn't mean that the other words around it must react to it.

        • dakom

          today at 7:33 AM

          You're making a straw-man argument with "anything exposing gender metadata". It's not like I dug up some obscure article - it's literally his chosen brand name. There's nothing arbitrary to use "he" for somebody who calls himself "mr".

          Is it possible that you have a good point about inclusive writing in general, but you just happened to hop on the wrong case to make your stand, didn't realize that we're talking about an explicit "mr"?

          • hypfer

            today at 7:35 AM

            Huh?

            Isn't a strawman something I would make up that you would have said to then attack it?

    • Leonard_of_Q

      today at 6:34 AM

      > The they/them swap is the most elegant implementation I am aware of.

      Far from it, it only creates confusion and injects ideologically charged "pronoun language" into the discussion. If you feel the need to make clear that yes, the person you're talking about can be a man as well as a woman - something which most people realise and the ones who don't won't anyway no matter which words you use - use something like s/he or "he or she". The first form is just as short, is not ideologically charged and does not create ambiguity.

      • hypfer

        today at 6:38 AM

        What confusion does it create?

        You may genuinely not know the gender of an online nickname, and, frankly, you also don't really have to know? Why share this metadata in the first place.

        I kinda see your point regarding "it pulls in culture war", but, to be fair, it's "they/them". Language that - in this very usage - predates the culture war by centuries.

        So.. idk I think you might be wrong here.

        • boxed

          today at 7:05 AM

          "They" is plural AND singular. Obviously it creates confusion.

          • hypfer

            today at 7:08 AM

            Fair pushback, however, again, I would ask to which degree and to what end.

            "There is an entity named doob, and they are responsible for this thing" at least to me kinda solves the exact thing (attribution, "where to ask questions") it needs to solve, while simultaneously encoding the least amount of metadata possible.

            (Okay technically the entity is named mrdoob as an opaque string, but "there is an entity named doob" was more fun to type)

            • boxed

              today at 9:45 AM

              In this case it could be plural though. Very much so.

      • mock-possum

        today at 9:56 AM

        Prefer harmless confusion to harmful intolerance

      • exe34

        today at 6:57 AM

        Unless they are non-binary? But in some languages you'll still run into trouble. In Italian, if your masculine, it's non-binario, and if you're feminine, it's non-binaria.

        • hypfer

          today at 7:00 AM

          > In Italian, if your masculine, it's non-binario, and if you're feminine, it's non-binaria.

          Haha what the fuck. Who implemented that oh my god.

          Genuine question though. That cannot be grassroots, can it? Because it completely defeats the purpose of that. Did this just come up because someone _had_ to translate the english culture war during news reporting?

  • skrebbel

    today at 6:15 AM

    It won’t mind.

  • antoniojtorres

    today at 6:22 AM

    Useful!

  • TychoCelchuuu

    today at 6:25 AM

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I know no one stops you from using hashtag `codevember` on vibe coded project[0], but... isn't the whole point of these one month challenges(genuary, nodevember, inktober, etc) about human creativity? Like game jams?

[0]: https://x.com/mrdoob/status/2117561239249518650

• colordrops

  today at 7:19 AM

  I guess, but this isn't just some claude-kiddie, he's the creator of Three.js. it's like slamming Linus for using AI on the Linux kernel. He knows what he's doing.

  • plastic041

    today at 8:25 AM

    I know who he is and I don't care what he does with ai.

    To me these little challenges are about improving programming skills, showing creativity, and mostly just for fun. So using LLMs on 'codevember' feels weird. That doesn't mean I'm blaming him for it, I'm just having a hard time accepting it.

    • agilek

      today at 8:32 AM

      If coding is for you about writing beautiful code, then yes.

      Many of us are in the game because of the love for building things.

      • soon_to_be_sb

        today at 8:42 AM

        So you get the same joy from building things even when you outsource the "building" to some other person?

        • Cthulhu_

          today at 9:13 AM

          A big chunk of the software development industry is not typing code but figuring out what code to write in the first place.

          If you want to draw out the construction analogy, ask a mason or carpenter if they'd rather be an architect. (a lot would probably not want to, but I know a few people in the trades that can do a lot more than just welding two pieces of steel together, it's just that their job is the welding part.

          Actually this will be one of the challenges; LLM assisted coding has empowered people to be more decision makers, lead developers, architects, etc than code monkeys. But it's a pyramid, there's only so many lead developers you feasibly need on a project.)

        • JoshuaRogers

          today at 9:27 AM

          Do I get the same satisfaction from defining and directing a project that my team at work implements?

          Yes. Writing code was always fun but running a project is itself a systems engineering problem. Especially if you’re the one defining project scope.

          So yes, absolutely it is the same level of joy. The code I wrote was just the method needed to solve the low-level problem but it was never the entire problem space.

          I can see my fingerprints all over the user facing design and I can see all the places where I agonized over different approaches to maximize user enjoyment. Seeing the solutions manifest is thrilling frankly. I see users of LLMs as filling a similar role to mine in this respect.

          That said, I understand that not everyone enjoys the entirety of the problem space to the same degree and so I can see how a reasonable group of people might not find the higher-level puzzle as enjoyable as its low-level counterpart just as there are those who might find the low-level tedious instead of rewarding.

        • lrvick

          today at 8:49 AM

          Not OP but if it comes to Claude or OpenAI use, that does make me roll my eyes.

          That said, I use local AI on GPUs I own, so they are -my- tools on -my- property to help me research debug and help me execute my ideas faster than I could before, so more things get done than were done previously.

          I keep my AI rack under my 3D printer because they are the same type of tool to me.

      • plastic041

        today at 8:35 AM

        > If coding is for you about writing beautiful code

        ...when did I ever said that?

    • ktallett

      today at 8:41 AM

      Creativity is about coming up with your vision with the tools at hand in my eyes. I would still argue in situations like this you need a sense of style to understand what works and what doesn't.

• sevenzero

  today at 7:38 AM

  I thought so too, but AI is kinda destroying everything fun. Game jams, Advent of code, codevember apparently. To me personally it's super sad to see.

  • cinntaile

    today at 9:00 AM

    If you care about leaderboards perhaps. If you do it because it's fun then there is no reason to use AI if you don't find that fulfilling.

  • hackboyfly

    today at 8:34 AM

    I agree given that it’s about competition and not just having fun.

    • solyin

      today at 8:47 AM

      Ugh, fun.

• Rodmine

  today at 8:24 AM

  The creativity space moves. Now, it has moved to how you use your tokens.

  • ehnto

    today at 9:24 AM

    People still paint, despite photoshop. People still play instruments, despite Digital Audio Workstations.

    There is art in the craft, and more importantly enjoyment in the craft.

    I wouldn't AI generate a song because all of the fun for me and my friends is in the playing and watching. You will find that's true very often for creative people and those who enjoy their work.

    If all you are doing is blasting out corporate assets, or persuing money, I don't think anyone cares what you are using, generate away.

  • soon_to_be_sb

    today at 8:44 AM

    For some..

    • Rodmine

      today at 8:50 AM

      And some people still make stone tools as a creative pursuit. Everything is valid as creativity.

• prodigycorp

  today at 9:24 AM

  I see plenty of creativity on display here. I haven't seen anything like this and it was delightful. Also makes me want to explore more that I can do to create visualizations like this.

  The fact that it was vibe coded matters very little to me. Gate keeping the concept of a codevember doesnt seem very codevember to me.

• altmanaltman

  today at 7:39 AM

  i don't know, i vibe code a lot but could never come up with that. To me, it is pretty much human creativity.

  • Cthulhu_

    today at 9:09 AM

    While true, I think it's also true that ideas are cheap - how many people here know someone that had a great idea (like "uber for pets") and just need a software developer to build it?

    That said, idea people can now make their ideas a reality quicker / cheaper without needing an expert, if only to show it. Which in turn can make them more creative and original. In theory.

It is nice, but I'm somewhat unnerved that it never stops pouring. I expect it to finally stop at some time, and it doesn't, which for some reason makes me uneasy.

Definitely kept me on the page, very cool.

If it could move with a mobile device’s gyroscope, that would be quite the amuse-esprit.

• ncr100

  today at 8:09 AM

  I was thinking the same thing, and I think it would be nice to use fluid in games.

  If Apple has liquid glass, why can't web have jelly menus??

Awesome! Not only that one can build this in JavaScript, but also that your browser on a mobile phone can render this.

I like this. Can I eat it?

AI slop on the front page of Hacker News.

I guess the great unwashed have finally won.

Paste this in your browser console to support shearing https://dpaste.com/6C9TJVTS5

This is fun, but boy it gets heavy/laggy as it accumulates.

If you pause and the unpause after a while you get very pretty color bands! :)

`Unable to start: can't access property "getSupportedExtensions", this.gl is null`

Doesn't work on Firefox Mobile.

• 0x00cl

  today at 6:31 AM

  You might have webgl disabled. In the URL bar:

  about:config -> webgl.disabled: false

• mpern

  today at 6:52 AM

  Works over here on Firefox Mobile 159.0.1

• Leonard_of_Q

  today at 6:20 AM

  Works in Fennec (F-droid), doesn't work in Brave

• today at 6:33 AM

• brabel

  today at 7:14 AM

  Works on Firefox on iOS.

  • today at 7:43 AM

• stephbook

  today at 6:09 AM

  Safari/Chrome on iPhone fail.

  • fmbb

    today at 6:12 AM

    Wdym?

    Works in Safari on my old iPhone 12 mini.

• Rnonymous

  today at 5:58 AM

  Works on iceraven on mobile for me.

Love it, but I want to tear it in half!

Really fun to play with. Great work!

I will give, for almost free, a nice consultancy to folks looking for the purpose in their lives.

Cool

That is oddly satisfying

When I grow up I want to be as intelligent and productive as Mr. Doob.

So squishy

I am a bit disappointed that it cannot fill entire screen because it disappears.

Now i want those jelly candies in plastic blisters.

Classic web shit. Nice.

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