today at 10:45 PM
Interestingly enough, I was working on something very similar this past few of days[1]! A couple of things that I did differently -
One, in the post-transcription cleanup phase, instead of programmatically fixing the text, I just feed the text with a prompt + dictionary of words into an LLM. Initially tried doing this with the on-device model from Apple in macOS 27, but that was too slow. I've now been playing around with gpt-oss-20b on Groq, which appears to be fast and effective. Although I'm curious how well your programmatic approach works, I might try some sort of a bake off over the next few days. But in the long run, I think I might still stick with an LLM-based formatter because you can have far more interesting formatting considerations or formatting prompts based on the app that you are using or the style or tone of your dictated text.
Two - When building the dictionary of words to fix, I'm also including a recording of the word and having the transcription model just predict draft out variants to use as replacements.
[1] https://github.com/goose42/TalkToMyMac
today at 4:34 PM
I think we're about to see a dictation revolution.
I've been coding with Claude, and I pretty much do it exclusively by voice now, simply because it's so much faster. And I kind of feel like Scotty from Star Trek IV, when he holds up a Mac mouse to try to talk into it.
I've been using VoiceInk [1] which looks like it's basically the same as this, but has been around for longer.
What has really made it work for me is using a Bluetooth media control like [2], where I use Karabiner Elements to remap its play/pause button to the dictation keyboard shortcut. I map rewind to option-backspace to delete the last word, fast-forward to shift-enter to insert a newline, a lower button to enter to submit my prompt, and the volume up/down buttons to scroll up/down. I've also just ordered to Xiaomi Bluetooth remote [3] that includes a microphone itself to see if I can get it to work by speaking directly into it and using it as the microphone -- there are a couple of open source projects to turn it into a Mac microphone directly. Since I'd like to be able to talk more quietly instead of into my Mac.
But what I'm REALLY waiting for is the ability to use one button for dictation, and a second button for issuing commands for a local LLM to interpret. So I hold down the voice button which transcribes "I think we need to catch that" and then the second button and go "change catch to cache, like c-a-c-h-e". Or hold down the second button and go "switch to VS code". I don't want something as finicky as macOS Voice Control, I want a local LLM I can speak naturally to.
I can very much see a future where I spend the majority of my "work" time using a Apple TV-type remote.
[1] https://github.com/Beingpax/VoiceInk
[2] https://www.amazon.com/Satechi-Bluetooth-Multimedia-Remote-C...
[3] https://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi-Bluetooth-Remote-2-Pro-...
today at 10:38 PM
How do you keep your prompts from getting just ramblings as you do the thinking?
It sounds like a fun way to "code", but I just can't imagine how it works in reality.
today at 6:06 PM
I am having great results by mapping the press to dictate onto my pedal.I have been vibecoding without using my hands for the past four months with great results.It's amazing using the computer without touching it.I can go on for hours with a couple of pedals.I use them to switch windows, dictate and press enter.That's really all you need.
today at 6:28 PM
The one thing about the Bluetooth microphones is that there is this annoying lag that it's very hard to get used to, even when using AirPods which you think would be optimized for this. It's just untenable in my opinion because I could never get used to the 3-400 millisecond delay that I had to deal with. I ended up using simple Apple wired headphones as my go-to solution eventually. They actually produce a least a modest strain on ears when being in for hours on end, at least in my situation. I do like your idea about the Bluetooth multimedia remote controller.
today at 8:45 PM
today at 6:34 PM
i have fixed this problem in betterwispr btw ;)
today at 7:03 PM
You fixed bluetooth lag??
today at 7:26 PM
Great ideas here thanks! I’m going to see if I can whip up a Windows equivalent, using Autohokey instead of Karabiner.
today at 4:59 PM
I can see the appeal from a workflow perspective, though from a “social” perspective I don’t see myself enjoying talking to myself all day.
Bonus points if you work in an office. This kind of workflow would be a nightmare.
…unless it means we get our private offices back.
today at 6:22 PM
I have a friend who has reporposed a stenographer's mask
today at 4:54 PM
i forked handy and built 2 modes. One for dictation and one for quick agent actions that uses the pi harness with local models and jev style classifiers so it can read screens and interact with elements (via accessiblity tree, screenshots, os scripts, bash, mcp, etc). Its nice because in agent mode you can just give it instructions on how to respond (like dictation that can read the context of the current page or input). I've been pretty happy with it so far and debating if i should release it. Just not sure if the world needs yet another vibe coded agent system.
today at 5:09 PM
I'm glad we're getting to a point where voice can be the main UI, and that some people are actively using it to their benefit, but I hope it doesn't become THE primary interface, even with AIs.
I find speaking tiresome, somehow, and if I had to talk all the time to my computer with text input being a fidgety "accessibility" option, I'd retire to a monastery and just become a monk.
Agree with the need for different buttons for different voice contexts though.
Though I think it will become a dedicated AI key on some keyboards.. How about the Right Alt/Option on MacBooks? Does anybody use that? It could be the "AI Anywhere" input key, optionally defaulting to voice, and while F5 could continue to serve as a literal dictation key..
today at 7:08 PM
Speech also has a lack of privacy, and it can annoy people nearby.
Imagine everyone on public transport speaking in to their phones to navigate and control them.
A microphone sensitive to subvocalization could maybe get around some of these problems, but it'd still be kind of weird.
today at 6:23 PM
I upload documents to a remarkable, mark it up, and have Claude build changes there.
today at 2:35 PM
This reminds me very much in terms of features as https://github.com/cjpais/Handy https://handy.computer , what's the use case for this over that?
today at 10:16 PM
Big fan of Handy. It's simple, offers all the models with a great picker and the author is involved in building a general STT model runtime. It does streaming flawlessly with Nemotron, which mind-bogglingly many apps don't offer.
I checked out the alternatives mentioned in this thread and they appear more over-loaded, "sloppy" and commercial. Handy just does the thing without extras.
today at 3:09 PM
I recently switched to Voiceink which also does similar. I'm trying to find the edge this has over that but can't find it
today at 3:30 PM
VoiceInk took a little time compiling but it's been working flawlessly for the three people that use it now for dictating consultation notes.
today at 5:28 PM
lmao
today at 7:17 PM
Can you link to the exact website? Multiple similarly named projects show up.
today at 6:34 PM
I recently switched from Handy to Fluidvoice, and like it much better. The UI is much better and offers a better and more comprehensive feature set in comparison.
today at 6:37 PM
i do liked fluidvoice, can't compete with them honestly but do give it a try
today at 2:57 PM
They both use parakeet so I guess they would perform similar.
today at 3:27 PM
ye parakeet redux has been my new fav, that and tdt v2 both working well for my own clone app that was made.
today at 3:14 PM
How good is parakeet (assuming it’s Sota oss) compared to wisprflow? Wisprflow is magical ime
today at 4:45 PM
As much as I like seeing this, the space is really crowded, and I think the real value is not in single dictation for input, but in two other things: diarization (essential for call recordings, and a staple in video calling services, but hardly touched for in-room meetings and brainstorming) and the next step, which is cleaning it all up for actually useful notes. Not just the transcript, but better variations on meeting notes that you can customize, link to previous existing information, etc.
today at 9:29 PM
I've been using https://talat.app/ for this, I've not been using it for long, a few weeks, but it's working well so far.
today at 6:04 PM
In my own vibe coded implementation during the recordings the live transcript gets sent for validation and allows me to take better decision while in the call itself.I'm using a a small local model for processing.Also like when it detects bullshit told by others in real times so I can immediately reply.Fun
today at 5:58 PM
There are a number of free apps that do this now: ghostwhisper and anarlog are the first two that come to mind. It is not hard to vibe your own too. There are open source models that do diarization.
today at 4:57 PM
Isn't that what Google just released although it is mac only for the moment.
https://developers.google.com/edge/foresight
today at 6:19 PM
yup this is what i have been focusing on.
you can try the notetaking feature which i have build
today at 5:14 PM
What’s really shocking is this and many of the competitors are all using OpenAI whisper - which came out in 2022. (Once upon a time, OpenAI really did open research)
It’s surprising in 2026 this is still the default “best” all rounder. Kudos to the early OpenAI team and the open community efforts / improved models since then.
today at 6:36 PM
no it's a really old and bad stt model i am using parakeet v3 here which is way superior
today at 5:54 PM
Is there anything better for speech to text model?
today at 5:57 PM
Yes, parakeet. Ive switched all my apps to using it. Fantastic model
today at 6:05 PM
That is great! Just no fast inference like cerebras or groq support it
today at 6:15 PM
Parakeet is blindingly fast on modern hardware. My MacBook is just so fast, it's not even funny. But despite that, I still often use OpenWhisper because it just does better for accented voices. I also fine-tuned Qwen ASR on my voice, and that one is faster than Open Whisper, but I think I might even go back to Open Whisper eventually Because it still makes a lot of weird mistakes And I think it is over-indexed towards the fine tune And substitutes quite often wrong dictionary words for ambiguous words.
today at 6:46 PM
openwhispr dx is really bad, i made this product because i was tired that no one is working on accuracy and dx in general.
betterwispr main goal is to have accuracy and best dx possible.
today at 6:21 PM
Server side though?
today at 6:19 PM
parakeet v3 betterwispr uses that.
today at 4:02 PM
If folks like local-AI dictation, but want it optimized for meetings recordings (like Granola/Otter/Notion) check out Biscotti. Free, local, separates voices, voice identification, AI summaries, etc.
https://github.com/scosman/Biscotti
today at 10:08 PM
I'm curious whether you've checked out https://github.com/yazinsai/OpenOats and how Biscotti compares.
today at 5:29 PM
Otter was really like Hey you, subscribing? Great! Two recordings per month.
today at 3:14 PM
This came up a month ago - I forked from something now gone - https://github.com/NickJLange/parrot
And if MacOS 26 does it right - all of this is no longer necessary for us to vibe fork/ code on weekends :-)
P.S. Handy looks slick. May be able to ditch mine
today at 4:26 PM
MacOS 27 still has room for improvement; there is a measurable starting latency and error rate.
today at 7:14 PM
For me (M1 Studio) it works at least as well and as quickly as Handy or GhostPepper, which are considered two of the best. (Turn on with Keyboard > Dictation, works anywhere you can type text.)
today at 9:42 PM
What about adding a wake word detection so I can just say "Hey wakeWord" to activate the STT? Then maybe detect silence to finish. Completely hands free?
today at 4:06 PM
Seems everyone is cobbling these together. Here's a local-only one from Google: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/google-ai-edge-eloquent/id6756...
today at 3:47 PM
Been using Handy I am pretty happy but good to see more options, specially OSS.
today at 6:17 PM
handy is bloat and really bad dx in general.
this product is just 14mb binary.
today at 9:04 PM
I understand you made BetterWhispr and Handy would be a competitor, but if you're going to dunk on them it would be good to add some real detail and reasoning. It's okay if you just didn't get on with it, but this is HN where we want to hear about design decisions, trade-offs, and the motivation for building this over using one of the many alternatives.
I've not used either and I'm sure they're both great, but just saying an alternative is bad isn't particularly useful to anyone here.
today at 9:01 PM
Even though this looks really good I don’t see myself using this.
Mostly because I could use this only when I’m working from home, and even then after a few minutes I’ll get tired of speaking to myself and I actually type way faster than I speak.
today at 6:27 PM
Just tried it out as I was looking for something that does this exact thing well (macbook). So far I dictated about 5 different things in different contexts, it worked without a single error! Good choice to pick parakeet v3.
Nice work, thanks for building it!
today at 6:35 PM
ooh thanks so much man, if you face any issues do open a thread on github.
https://github.com/opennookorg/betterwispr
also do star it helps.
today at 3:55 PM
The native / built-in API SpeechAnalyzer (introduced last generation on iOS and MacOS) works quite well.
Are folks finding it lacking / needing alternatives?
today at 4:12 PM
Voice shortcuts etc
today at 6:16 PM
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today at 4:10 PM
This is awesome. I really want to get something like this integrated directly into my agent IDE (https://getness.dev).
The main thing I need is some way of auto-sending a "end of message" button (like a newline would do) at the end of the message so that it auto-sends the chat.
Not sure the exact right way to implement that, but it seems like something that could be general purpose. Maybe a setting per-active app?
today at 4:41 PM
I use handy.computer in push-to-talk mode. It inserts text in the active text box when you let go. It also supports auto-submitting at the end, so maybe that would help? I think it can send new line.
today at 4:46 PM
Many people are using Nemotron (NVIDIA provides Linux binaries for ARM and Intel that you can shove into a server and do audio over websockets for them).
today at 4:13 PM
Push-to-talk?
today at 4:31 PM
Yes I want push to talk in ness
But trying to implement it directly into ness hasn't worked that well. It seems like betterwispr/wisprflow/etc all seem to belong better as their own app, and we just need good integration points between the push-to-talk app and the text consuming apps (like the IDE)
today at 8:52 PM
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today at 5:25 PM
This is cool. I also built a dictation app that has advantage of using three state-of-the-art models in parallel. Which increases accuracy and reduces p95 significantly. You can check it out at https://zwhispr.com/
today at 5:26 PM
2000 words free per month.
today at 7:19 PM
ya tokens cost money. Unfortunately there is a limit to how much I can subsidize.
today at 4:12 PM
I expected dictation to be much more useful on the computer, but since I can type decently fast I find myself using it far less than I expected.
today at 4:39 PM
I can type crazy fast, ever since I was a kid.
Nevertheless I dictate almost exclusively with Claude Code now, because it's such better ergonomics. And it's still significantly faster.
But a big benefit is that I'm never hunching, I'm never straining my wrists, none of that stuff. Dictation is just so much better for your neck and back.
today at 9:55 PM
Yeah Claude Code is one example where I use dictation most of the time (unless I'm in the office). Even if I take back some things that I say there it can be useful context for the LLM to parse and understand what I'm doing. The thing is that for long emails, long text messages, or in general when I have to think about what I want to communicate and I have to write decently, ASR isn't helping me as much as I thought it would. Maybe I'm using it in the wrong way, and I could build a better pipeline if I added LLM postprocessing to my text, but I don't have enough memory on my computer for this kind of task yet.
today at 6:21 PM
Yeah, this is a very good point. I just lean back and speak. I find it much better. You can actually think now better because you can actually focus on the problem, admittedly, I never bothered to learn how to type fast because I was too lazy And my fingers are beefy. And I also like it when I'm literally just looking at something and giving a feedback to model while I'm speaking and it is being transcribed and being acted upon. I mean, this is all is kind of like science fiction. I'm surprised that there's so much negativity about all this AI or as we officially now refer to as Si.
today at 4:48 PM
How are you handling local transcription? We opted for an offline-first for FetchMark archiver for same privacy reason and it doubled our retention.
Congrats on shipping!
today at 6:16 PM
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today at 6:41 PM
just in case here is the repo: https://github.com/opennookorg/betterwispr
do star it on gh if you liked it!
today at 4:09 PM
I'm a bit confused, isn't "Wispr" a trademarked term? Why would you pick a name that could easily be shut down?
today at 6:14 PM
nope it isn't trademarked actually
today at 6:56 PM
U.S. trademark rights are conferred just by use in the market, not necessarily requiring an application.
today at 3:43 PM
This is pretty neat, I built something similar a couple months ago. I'd say try to support Windows or Linux next.
today at 6:14 PM
sure will do
today at 2:53 PM
How does it compare to handy ?
today at 6:13 PM
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today at 8:17 PM
This is my entry into the world of vibe coded Wispr Flow clones. Runs locally on the Whisper AI speech recognition model file - the small variety - just under 200mb.
I thought the small model won't be any good, but it's actually great and barely causes the GPU any usage.
Like other people in this thread mentioned, I switched pretty much exclusively to working with voice. Whether it's responding to text or talking to Claude or writing an email.
today at 5:23 PM
I've been trying to figure out how to code and build while on the bike /treadmill at the gym.
Want a remote terminal into my Mac that I can voice control.
today at 6:13 PM
yeah you can do try this out, it's really smooth and has good native macos ux in general.
it's just a 14 mb file so no bloat as well.
today at 4:09 PM
To be honest, I used Wspr so much I only recently started realizing just HOW bad it gets trying to 'improve' your diction, especially coding. I have seen totally opperate directives. I had no idea it was potentially occuring, but it gets past a point where it is WAY to confident in guessing what you meant, sometimes to the extent of changing DON'T to DO, for example.
today at 6:26 PM
agree with your point, but wisprflow has been degraded recently and i wanted a solution which is free and works basically
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today at 12:04 PM
Hey HN,
I’m building BetterWispr, a free and open-source voice dictation app for macOS.
I wanted to make voice typing more accessible without requiring a monthly subscription or sending every recording to a cloud server.
You can hold Option + Space, speak naturally, and have the transcription inserted directly into whatever app you’re using.
A few things I’ve been working on:
- Local speech recognition using Whisper, Parakeet, or Apple Speech - Automatic cleanup of filler words and repeated phrases - Custom vocabulary for names and technical terms - Different writing styles depending on the app - Optional meeting transcription and summaries
The project is open source under Apache 2.0.
I’m still improving the experience, especially around transcription accuracy, speed, and reliability across different Macs.
I’d love feedback from people who regularly use voice dictation.
What would make you switch from your current dictation tool to an open-source alternative?
Website: https://betterwispr.com/
today at 7:23 PM
What are the minimum Mac requirements?