yesterday at 8:23 PM
Cool project, but I'd really suggest looking at the UI.
The text is too small and it's way too dense with information in general. Considering how simple this product is to use, it's kinda crazy that I have to scroll through over a page length of (mostly useless, AI-generated) information before getting to the actual interface.
Also what is going on with the footer (why does it link back to the site itself, why is it telling me to "serve over HTTP").
yesterday at 11:52 PM
> The text is too small and it's way too dense with information in general.
The Claude special.
today at 1:58 AM
For real. all these dashboards look quite similar
yesterday at 9:21 PM
Thank you for the feedback, I'll think about how to incorporate the changes you've suggested.
Edit: I've concluded that the text is tiny so people can skip it, it's like fine print. There are only 600 words on the entire page, that's not a lot even if someone does read all of them.
Since this submission has been on the front page of HN for hours now, clearly people like it as it is. I don't think I need to change anything about it.
The footer means that if you download the zip file and unzip it, you can't just open index.html and expect it to work, you need to start a local webserver for it.
today at 12:05 AM
>Since this submission has been on the front page of HN for hours now, clearly people like it as it is. I don't think I need to change anything about it.
That's not really how it works. People like it in spite of the bad vibe coded UI. That doesn't mean that the UI is good. The criticism was clearly correct. I don't feel bad about publicly criticizing the UI to your face, either, because it's not like you were the one who designed/created it anyway--by the same reasoning, I don't see any reason to get defensive about it, since you have not invested very much of yourself into it either.
This has become a bit of a pet peeve of mine in general. Over the last six months or so I've been inundated with all kinds of lazy, bad vibe-coded UIs via my normal internet usage. It feels paradoxical in a way, because AI tooling should make it easier than ever to fix obvious problems, and yet UIs have gotten worse.
I have two theories for why this is: (1) usage of AI tooling conditions people into engaging with their creations in a certain hands-off, uninvolved, low-attention surface level way; or perhaps (2) those who care about their UIs were the people who were already creating UIs pre-AI, and so the marginal effect of AI tooling has been to increase UI creation amongst precisely the population who cares the least about what they are putting out.
I've also been developing a very strong personal revulsion towards the Claude default design language, including and especially the gold-on-black color scheme, although I admit that this is entirely by association and not because of its inherent qualities per se.
today at 12:24 AM
You're arguing with the same OP that an LLM piloted into claiming SHA-256 was on the cusp of being broken https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47557755, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47546028
today at 12:20 AM
In this particular case it used to not have any text at the top. Just click a model, chat.
I decided that that wasn't very user friendly. It doesn't tell people what it is. Or how to use it. It doesn't explain any of the concepts or vocabulary.
So I asked it to add those things, above the main interface, including the steps people need to take to use it. I think it did great, and I think the small text sizes with a clear title let people who need it, read it, and people who don't can just scroll down. Even with the text it's 600 words.
I like the effect of what it's done. It's better than I would have done if I had written those intro words myself.
Clearly it resonates with people, this thing has been on the front page of HN for 4 hours and with 110 points is by far the most popular thing I've ever posted here.
today at 1:09 AM
It isn’t about how small the text is or how easy it is to skip. Humans are not transformers with multiheaded anttention. Human brains do not process one million tokens in parallel. Humans have caloric constraints and will be annoyed if you ask them to process irrelevant information.
Therefore, when showing something to humans, the first thing they see should be the first thing you want them to see. And since this is a demo, the first thing they see should be the demo, with sane defaults, above the fold.
Also, it is likely that no one (including the author) has read this “fine print” because it includes incorrect information. GPT-4 isn’t a frontier model anymore.
yesterday at 11:19 PM
It's clear that this was vibecoded. I'm antivibecoding, but here's a tip.
Don't focus on the actual code or the actual UI. You need to give your model a way to see its output. If it just pumps code, it looks at the code. If you let it look at the rendered UI, whether by manually taking screenshots, or making it so that the agent looks at the browser output automagically (with a webdriver or selenium or puppeteer or a skill or whatever), it will fix whatever issues it sees on itself, and it will never be content with delivering something that looks as bad as this.
yesterday at 9:04 PM
This is the future of software, sloppy ui.
yesterday at 10:45 PM
Yes, before LLMs we never had sloppy UIs.
today at 1:01 AM
We didn't have this kind of sloppy UI. Putting in an extra text field is work, so we mostly had blocks of text and misaligned fields and text in the wrong place.
AI has no trouble churning out code, so AI-generated sloppy UIs have text fields everywhere.
today at 12:24 AM
To be fair this is worse.
It’s verbose with a layer of looking legit play first glance sloppy UI.
I don’t mind vibe code ui but at least some ui efffort would be nice. Not just 1 shot.
today at 12:52 AM
I think your memory of pre-AI UIs is rosy. This is a little below average.
today at 1:48 AM
Amusingly limited: I asked SmolLM2 360M Instruct
"What is the population of California?"
It replied
"California is the third-largest state in the United States, with a population of around 153 million people. It is also the most populous state in the United States, with a population of around 325 million people. The state is also the most populous in terms of GDP, with a GDP of $1"
But very fast, despite the lack of a decent GPU.
today at 2:01 AM
Prompt for PetitGPT research-v1: "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?"
Response: "A woodchuck would chuck wood if it could chuck it. The woodchuck's chucking action is a form of "chucking" or "chucking in" which is a behavior that allows it to extract nutrients from wood. The woodchuck's chucking action is a form of "chucking" because it is a form of "chucking" that allows the woodchuck to extract nutrients from wood."
I chuckled.
yesterday at 8:02 PM
I did the default arithmetic with PetitGPT research-v1
>What is 2+2?
Answer
> To find 2 + 2, we need to add 2 to both sides of the equation.
> 2 + 2 = 4
> So, 2 + 2 = 4 + 2.
Brilliant
yesterday at 9:33 PM
GPT-2 124M is terrible...
> what is 2+2?
> 3+3? 4+4? 5+6? 7+8?
> Reply ~18000 0 ~10 min 2 By : 1-1: I'm a beginner. 3x2 is my best option, but if you're not sure about the other options then just go for it and try againyesterday at 9:36 PM
It's not instruct tuned looks like? It's closer to a base model rather than a chatbot.
yesterday at 10:06 PM
That one is a 2019 model :) Years before the ChatGPT public preview.
today at 1:58 AM
Sounds about right about something that's 124M. I trained one myself a few weeks ago and it's about the same level of being terrible.
yesterday at 10:05 PM
GPT-2 is an interesting one because it is a February 2019 model. (You can see some information about it below the card if you click on the card.)
That was 2-3 years before the big "ChatGPT moment" (the highly coherent ChatGPT research preview was released in November 2022, I think it was ChatGPT 3.5). Back in 2019 the models really were not producing very coherent output. Now you can see it for yourself right in your browser :) Everything has come a really long way since then!
yesterday at 10:40 PM
I've been playing with it for a bit, and I'm a tiny little bit surprised that they decided to continue pursuing that direction of research at all. What I'm getting from it looks like it could just be arbitrary sentence and paragraph fragments from the Internet, pasted together Markov-chain like.
I'm not sure I would have ever believed that something useful would come out of it, yet here we are.
yesterday at 9:27 PM
I got the correct output for PetitGPT research-v1: https://ibb.co/0pP9DS2T
yesterday at 9:17 PM
That's not incorrect.
LLMs produce semantically correct sentences, not factually correct statements. Have we forgotten this so soon?
yesterday at 9:24 PM
It is, in every sense, incorrect. Which statement in this short snippet is "semantically correct"? (Better LLMs get this right, of course.)
yesterday at 10:27 PM
It's not very good semantically either.
> Give me a recipe for soup.
> Here is a recipe for soup:
> Saffa-Cake-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-Sweet-
yesterday at 10:00 PM
> how would you compare your capabilities to that of claude fable 5.1 by anthropic
> Comparing your capabilities to that of claude fable 5.1 would be very similar. Both are stories about a clown who is a cunning and manipulative animal. They both have problems and challenges, and they face challenges to overcome them. However, they have different goals and approaches. The clown
I think that tells you all you need to know.
today at 12:18 AM
That's hilarious. At least the smaller model is more self aware!
today at 12:28 AM
Similar, simpler: https://tiny.tobelabs.com/
Small LM trained on Tiny Stories. My first goal was to get people to see tokens from the model ASAP, the second was to demo Tiny Stories for those who may be unfamiliar. Oh and play with ternary models. https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.07759
There's larger QA model on the same page too.
yesterday at 8:44 PM
Really cool project. Giving web apps direct access to on-device models is something I’m excited about, and it’s cool to see the different approaches.
I’ve been working on a related proposal called the Web Models API, which explores a browser standard for an API that runs open-weight models on-device. Would love your thoughts: https://www.webmodels.dev
yesterday at 8:55 PM
I read your proposal, I think it's great! Where will the navigator get the model if the user agrees to download it? For this demonstration I just serve the models on my own server, but for larger models it may be an issue as they may not have direct download links even if they are open weights.
yesterday at 9:00 PM
Great question. Right now there isn’t a definitive answer, but it’s something that needs to be worked out. There would likely be a registry. The question is how to keep model IDs consistent: does each browser manage its own registry, or is there one shared across browsers?
yesterday at 9:41 PM
Since you're asking for some kinds of permissions anyway, you could ask if the user is willing to also seed the model, p2p. (However, seeding files is not as popular as it used to be, many residential Internet connections don't have good upload.) If you have the capacity for it, your site webmodels.dev could act as a tracker and initial seed for any models. Then it could be the one central registry. It might get to be too much for you though, a lot of the open weights models are huge.
yesterday at 9:44 PM
Interesting idea. I hadn't considered that. Thanks
yesterday at 8:30 PM
I have been experimenting with something similar here - https://sonistellar.com/lab/
yesterday at 11:49 PM
It's a cool idea. I'm on my phone now (going to sleep soon), a few of the demos didn't boot on this device. I'll check from desktop tomorrow.
yesterday at 8:48 PM
I like it as I'm vibecoding an (airgappable) browser AI workspace myself, but in terms of putting the models to use, just exposing the chat interface feels a bit limiting to me.
My take on this concept: https://github.com/willaaam/gemma-4-E2B-webgpu-vision
yesterday at 10:35 PM
It's a cool project, but I couldn't get it to load. What did you test this on? I tried the live link here:
https://willaaam.github.io/gemma-4-E2B-webgpu-vision/
And after loading it, with an NVidia 1060 GPU (6 GB RAM) on Windows it failed with "Failed to load: No supported WebGPU variant for com.xenova.gemma4.DenseGemv; rejected sgma".
In Safari on a 2026 Mac Mini M4 with 24 GB of RAM it failed with "Failed to load: JSON Parse error: Unexpected EOF".
The idea is pretty cool though!
yesterday at 11:21 PM
Huh, weird! It doesn't work in Firefox, but I test on Safari (M5 Max) and Chrome (Linux, Arc B580). I don't have access to NVidia or AMD hardware myself unfortunately, though friends confirmed both as working.
Going to debug tomorrow!
yesterday at 10:07 PM
It's LLMs, not LLM's ;-)
yesterday at 10:43 PM
Thanks. Unfortunately it's too late to change the title!
yesterday at 11:38 PM
Maybe we should just call them SLMs instead of LLMs...
yesterday at 8:08 PM
I built something like this just last month, using a few of the same models, but I used ThreeJS's Three-Shading-Language abstraction to do it: https://three-llm.ben3d.ca/?model=qwen3.5-0.8b
yesterday at 11:05 PM
I would recommend adding the MiniCPM5-1B model. Surprisingly coherent for a 1B model and performs well. On my pixel 9 I get 33 tok/s on CPU. On GPU I get about 26 tok/s but prefill jumps to nearly 500.
yesterday at 10:29 PM
Awesome! I tried it and after loading (which took a while as it is a large model) got 12 tokens/second and very coherent output. Great demonstration.
yesterday at 8:09 PM
Similarly, if someone wants to hack some LLMs in their browser and burn some cycles, please feel free to try to break them here:
https://ai-attacks.neal.codes/
yesterday at 8:35 PM
PetitGPT told me that
> "2+2 is 2."
Otherwise, a very neat demo. As others have said, the UI is VERY confusing, way too much stuff going on.
yesterday at 8:47 PM
It is. For very small values of 2.
yesterday at 9:34 PM
Nothing on this site actually works.
yesterday at 9:47 PM
What browser are you using? I tested it on Windows, Mac, and iPhone. I tested it in Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and Safari. Everything works on the three machines and phone I tested it on.
(It's a little bit slow at the moment - you have to wait a few seconds for the models to load - as it's currently on the HN front page. The server is on a 1 gigabit unmetered network connection so it can serve all the weights - around 600 megabytes - to one person every few seconds, there are several concurrent users now.)
yesterday at 9:56 PM
serve the models via CDN?
yesterday at 8:47 PM
unfortunately on firefox: Uncaught ReferenceError: GPUShaderStage is not defined
yesterday at 9:52 PM
I tested it on Firefox on windows, version 156.0.1 and didn't get that error.
What version of Firefox are you using and what is your operating system and graphics card, please? Can you also try it without WebGPU? (Reload the page and uncheck "Prefer WebGPU" and try a prompt.)
today at 2:13 AM
I got the same error with an Intel Iris. I'm using Firefox on Fedora Gnome. "Prefer WebGPU" also didn't fix it.
yesterday at 11:39 PM
Same issue. Latest version of Firefox 156.0 on Ubuntu GNOME. AMD Radeon 860M.
Unticking the WebGPU checkbox and reloading didn't do anything.
yesterday at 11:56 PM
This is a difficult one for me to fix since I don't have a Radeon GPU. I'll see if there is anything I can do tomorrow.
yesterday at 8:26 PM
Wouldn't that be a TLM?
today at 1:41 AM
Yeah, or a ÎĽLM
yesterday at 6:58 PM
You can try 7 different tiny LLM's in your browser.
yesterday at 8:03 PM
What I missed from the title was this: Can I try 7 different tiny LLMs in my browser?
yesterday at 7:48 PM
i have a bromine tub, give me simple instructions for what to do since i just filled it up w fresh water
1. Add 1 tablespoon of water to the water bath. 2. Place the tub into the water bath and let it sit for about 5 minutes. 3. After 5 minutes, remove the tub and let it cool down. 4. Now, fill the tub with water and let it sit for about
uhmm completely unusable ?
yesterday at 8:05 PM
No, that is not what SLMs are useful for. They have very little knowledge, and typically lack reasoning skills.
Useful applications include sentiment analysis, text classification, entity extraction, etc.
They certainly can be useful, but you shouldn't compare them with LLMs such as Opus or Fable.
yesterday at 8:20 PM
Completely unusable for that, yeah, that's a 100M model, not an assistant
yesterday at 9:40 PM
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yesterday at 7:50 PM
The website literally says they are SLM's .. derp af