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Recurrent Looped Transformer

14 points - today at 12:05 AM

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  • vatsachak

    today at 2:39 AM

    Paper written by AI

    • dankai

      today at 1:57 AM

      Is this just a theory about an architecture or are there actually some benchmarks/results to substantiate it?

        • jal278

          today at 2:01 AM

          appears it's just a theory, sort of surprised this lifted up so far on hn

            • fc417fc802

              today at 2:38 AM

              A fairly obvious theory at that, unless I've critically misunderstood what's being described. As with so many obvious ideas I've always assumed that the reason I haven't come across it in the wild is because it doesn't work (or is comparatively inefficient, or tends to blow up during the training run, or etc).

              > Realized reasoning gains, hardware efficiency, and RL scaling remain to be established.

              Yeah so the first entry in that list is - if I may be so bold - typically what you'd start with at a small scale _before_ writing up and publishing your "genius" idea. This is the usual crank with delusions of grandeur presenting something straightforward that he hasn't tested as though it were a working breakthrough.

              Ironically the cost of testing such theories has fallen to an all time low given the capabilities of coding models. I wouldn't be surprised if a frontier model could one shot a test of this.

      • jal278

        today at 1:56 AM

        not sure w/o context why this is important -- no results/implementation & i believe there are prior combinations of transformers/RNNs. but perhaps I'm missing the relevance/insight

        • lstodd

          today at 2:35 AM

          I thought it's about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autotransformer

            • fc417fc802

              today at 2:54 AM

              I can't believe that actually works? This is far more interesting than the half baked ML idea.

              Edit: Thanks to your link I've now learned about the zigzag transformer which is yet another design that somehow feels like cheating reality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zigzag_transformer