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4,400-Year-Old Tomb of Egyptian Judge Found at Saqqara with Colors on Walls

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  • karmelapple

    today at 1:05 AM

    So glad to see color photographs of the site.

    One thing I'm not so glad to see is one paragraph that starts with this sentence:

    "The distinction is important. Archaeological maps..."

    That "The distinction is important" smells like AI writing... but maybe we all just have to accept that now?

      • azernik

        today at 5:58 AM

        We all have to accept that people will look at perfectly innocuous, clear, well-written prose and assume that AI wrote it.

          • kakacik

            today at 7:29 AM

            Yeah its getting annoying how people discuss endlessly how some text is AI or not... like some extra imaginative points are awarded to those who spot the most. People seem to keep getting triggered by little insignificant things in the text.

            LLMs average human writing thats out there, its not making up new expressions or language constructs so just move on if you (anybody) can and put that little obsessive pedantic part of you behind you.

            I couldn't care less, why be a prick and not just enjoy & discuss the content, not this ultra focus on the form. If content is crap then thats another story altogether. I wish there would be some plugin/feature to just block those rather empty subthreads.

              • classified

                today at 7:46 AM

                That's just how low-brow use of LLMs destroys the last remnants of trust on the web. Anything and everything could be an LLM's hallucination, even if it isn't. Still, the deluge of LLM-generated slop is a fact. Just ask GitHub.

            • psychoslave

              today at 7:01 AM

              One can still suspect that something might not have been uttered through some AI assistance. There might even be still some living humans outside, who knows.

          • 0xpgm

            today at 1:16 AM

            As more people start using AI for research, they'll probably adopt AI'isms in their writing too, even if they don't use AI itself to do the writing.

            Subconsciously we all pick up patterns that we regularly encounter.

              • hunter-gatherer

                today at 1:37 AM

                I've had that happen to me. I actually recently wrote a draft blog and looked over it, and it felt AI generated. My writing style has definitely changed.

                • jcims

                  today at 3:55 AM

                  I've definitely picked up 'lever', I scrub it every time that I notice I write it but it's in there.

                    • rubicon33

                      today at 7:15 AM

                      β€œblast radius” for me

                  • youniverse

                    today at 3:05 AM

                    Maybe we need our AI to only respond in bullet point lists.

                      • erickhill

                        today at 3:58 AM

                        With emoji for the bullets, natch.

                          • TomK32

                            today at 5:06 AM

                            Just put "Don't use emojis" into the prompt.

                              • tacomagick

                                today at 6:39 AM

                                Pass it as a memory or a system prompt and watch it forget 3 agent messages later.

                                  • mxmilkiib

                                    today at 7:19 AM

                                    what frontier models are this bad these days?

                                      • tacomagick

                                        today at 7:37 AM

                                        I can't name one but I can tell you these models keep getting stupider as they keep existing and their system prompts get inflated with what not to do. I have experienced this happen with Qwen 3.8 Max Preview where for the early days it was blasting through Rust code fine and then before the release it silently got replaced and started to suck hard. Claude still has the "blue button" problem so it is probable that a casual chat with it could have this exact outcome of forgetting what to do. I saw some models also have this thing where when you tell them a text restriction they first ignore it in thinking, creating the full text and then apply them in their thinking rewriting it fully causing your output tokens to be inflated.

                            • today at 4:03 AM

                          • evoluketion

                            today at 4:04 AM

                            - The

                            - Distinction

                            - Is

                            - Important

                        • joegibbs

                          today at 5:19 AM

                          I have the opposite, I can pick up AIsms much more now and they stick out like a sore thumb. A couple of years ago I had no such intuition, it just sounded like normal writing to me, but now if I try to use AI to write any prose it just sounds absolutely terrible.

                          • awesome_dude

                            today at 5:48 AM

                            This is the load-bearing result

                            • debo_

                              today at 1:24 AM

                              This distinction is important.

                          • 21asdffdsa12

                            today at 6:55 AM

                            Remember the "IDunno" of archeology - "It most likely served ritual and cultural purposes" .. i wonder if AI adapts such a thing

                            • jimmygrapes

                              today at 7:45 AM

                              Worst thing is that because the smell is bad and you called it out, too comments are all about the smell vs the substance. I contribute, sadly. Maybe we should all be more judicious with when we say there's a smell, save that for when it's really rank? Like a polite thing. Yeah it stinks but maybe it's worth something beyond that. Not sure if this is the one, just thinking out loud.

                              • TomK32

                                today at 5:05 AM

                                Ran it through several testes, only one flagged a few sentences as AI, including the one you mention. Fair enough, it's unlikely that English is the (turkish in this case?) author's first language and a little AI help can't hurt here.

                                I learned a great lesson for a gamedev youtuber this summer: Use AI to give you a summary what you have to implement, what functions you'll need, what edge case you missed and then write it yourself. Putting this into practice helps me to refine the ticket I'm working on. With the last ticket I had to persuade the AI (Atlassian's Rovo in my case) that a new data model wasn't necessary and we can do it more elegantly with less code.

                                Many of us still have to figure out how AI fits into our workflow, letting it do all the work isn't it but asking AI to point you towards the goal and let it review/refine your work sounds a lot more acceptable to me.

                                  • protocolture

                                    today at 5:52 AM

                                    >testes

                                    teehee

                                    • aprilthird2021

                                      today at 5:37 AM

                                      > and a little AI help can't hurt here.

                                      Wrong wrong wrong.

                                      Bad writing makes the reader stop thinking about what you wanted to convey. As unintuitive as it is for most people in this forum, AI writing smell is as bad as bad grammar. Doesn't matter how you get rid of it. Maybe even more AI can clean those up, but those unintuitive phrases that pop up in AI writing are going to be a hindrance for many people who would love for the focus to be on what they're presenting, not the sloppy way they've written it up

                                  • today at 4:31 AM

                                • nfujd7

                                  today at 7:23 AM

                                  4400 years ago! Check whats happening in the rest of the world and its pretty primitive in comparision.

                                  • NegativeLatency

                                    today at 5:37 AM

                                    I imagine they've done some tweaking before publishing (also appears the rock substrate has flaked off), was hoping to be able to pull some more detail out of the images with a vibe coded decorrelation stretch app I made from a post last week:

                                    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49645437

                                    https://github.com/nburns/DecorrelationStretch

                                  • jb1991

                                    today at 5:57 AM

                                    If I understand this finding correctly, it now means we have proof that ancient Egypt was not a life in black-and-white.