I need the Star Trek modules, which I recall waiting overnight to pirate from a BBS on my 14.4k. "Do NOT pick up the phone, mom."

Also Lunatic Fringe - somehow and for some reason a full top down space shoot-em-up in After Dark. Probably for office workers to play, I do recall there was a "boss mode" that pulled up a fake spreadsheet or something.

• orangecat

  yesterday at 8:00 PM

  Dedicated Lunatic Fringe player: https://morphing.cloud/lunacy/

• reaperducer

  yesterday at 7:51 PM

  I need the Star Trek modules

  They're there. Installable from within the program.

• cyanydeez

  yesterday at 8:11 PM

  Did you forget to use that download protocol that lets you resume downloads or were you normal. I think it was zoom something.

  • jasonpeacock

    yesterday at 8:43 PM

    it was `zmodem`:

    https://b0b.com/ZMODEM.TXT

The original After Dark, distributed on floppy in 1989, 1.1MB, was $110 in today's money. More than $7 per screen saver!

Of course, the target market of computer users was way smaller than it is today.

I need this for Windows.

The After Dark screensavers are on the internet archive, but obviously they look and run like crap since they're made for Windows 3.x to maybe 95/98.

• netsharc

  yesterday at 8:47 PM

  AFAIK there are a lot of Javascript implementations, e.g.: https://www.bryanbraun.com/after-dark-css/

  • pogue

    yesterday at 10:41 PM

    I appreciate the link, but as far as using it aa a screen saver, that's not what I'm looking for.

    I would think if this mac After Dark project is open source, the assets would be available to use in other software.

• xattt

  today at 2:12 AM

  If After Dark was made today, would the toast/toasters have been photorealistic or some Material-design take on toast?

Semi-related, I redid just the other day the Flying Toasters in-browser with the full logic from the original, toast-juggler and everything.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49432857

Thought about doing it as a Linux screensaver, but I didn't have the patience to actually wait for the idle time, and that way I can share it with my non-Linux-using family.

I need this for Wayland. Maybe when the maintainers discover that joy in computing both exists and can be a worthwhile pursuit.

"You can also browse and install software releases directly from the Internet Archive without leaving the app. "

That's a fine line being walked there. If they are worried about rights issues and not including the bundles, this seems like a risky FU by building this feature in directly. The part about using bundles you may have without asking questions of origin is fine. Otherwise, why not just include the bundles?

• duskwuff

  today at 12:52 AM

  From a pragmatic perspective: Berkeley Systems went through a long chain of acquisitions in the late 90s/early 2000s and eventually ended up under Vivendi, which hasn't done anything significant with the rights since a Flying Toasters themed J2ME game [1] in 2006. I doubt very much that they're going to do anything.

  [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZSufoTPBs

• jedberg

  yesterday at 8:00 PM

  This is pretty well trod legally. By the user taking a specific action, it makes the user responsible. Comma.ai uses the same technique. Technically their self driving hardware comes with no software. You have to click a button and point it at their GitHub to get the software on it, but it's automatic after that.

  • schoen

    yesterday at 8:15 PM

    We lost a Supreme Court case in 2005 on "inducement liability" (not a familiar copyright doctrine before that).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM_Studios,_Inc._v._Grokster,....

    I'm not sure if this doctrine has continued to be applied to anything else.

    • jedberg

      yesterday at 8:22 PM

      That's a good point. The other examples didn't involve copyright.

      Hopefully since it's so old, the copyright holders are cool about it.

      ps. Hi Seth, good to see you around!

  • CaliforniaKarl

    yesterday at 8:08 PM

    I forget, doesn't Audacity also have you do this, if you want to be able to export projects as MP3?

    • dylan604

      yesterday at 8:12 PM

      yes, although the I recently tried doing this on a cloud Ubuntu instance, and it refused to see the .so file

  • micromacrofoot

    yesterday at 9:13 PM

    winamp did something similar, you actually had to whip the llamas ass yourself

I get the nostalgia factor, but is it actually a good idea to use screensavers on modern monitors rather than letting them sleep?

• snazz

  yesterday at 11:46 PM

  Leaving it on all the time would probably dim the backlight eventually more than turning it off, but I’m sure the monitor could handle it. Mostly a waste of energy.

• Ozzie-D

  today at 1:29 AM

  [flagged]

Has anyone been able to make this actually work as a macOS screensaver? I'm using Tahoe and when I go to System Settings -> Wallpapers -> Screensavers, I don't see any option to select like Afterglow or any of the wallpapers I installed.

• jamesfmilne

  yesterday at 9:35 PM

  Yes it works, but you need to enable it in the Afterglow settings first.

We need this for the Death Toasters from Opus 'n Bill: Brain Saver

I’m surprised still that there hasn’t been a port of the classic old old Windows screensavers.

• cube00

  today at 1:16 AM

  They're not as satisfying on today's high resolution displays unless you wanted to also redraw the artwork.

Anyone get this running? I installed and downloaded content but cannot figure out how to get it to appear under Screen Savers in System Settings.

• nickt

  yesterday at 10:04 PM

  In screen savers, scroll to the bottom - and click on the easy to miss "Show All" on the right side. You should see Afterglow in the expanded list.

  • CodeWriter23

    yesterday at 10:27 PM

    Thanks!

• jamesfmilne

  yesterday at 9:35 PM

  You need to enable the Screen Saver module in the Afterglow settings first. Works great.

  • CodeWriter23

    yesterday at 10:27 PM

    Thanks!

jcs has this on their blog.

https://jcs.org/

If you are idle for too long, the flying toasters / screensaver kicks in.

Is there just the one Mowin' Man in More After Dark?

I wish someone would do this for a recently deceased OS X screen saver I loved.

Someone went through the film 2001: A Space Odyssey and re-created all of the computer screens, with animation.

It was a masterpiece of mid-century design and space-age optimism.

IIRC, the author got a cease-and-desist demand, and was left to languish and die when Macs went 64-bit only.

• 45sdasf45

  yesterday at 8:06 PM

  "HAL 9000". This blog has how to do it on modern machines: https://www.fluffytech.co.uk/fluff/the-hal-project/#top

  general idea, rip the 4k vids from YT and use a video screensaver app

  • dylan604

    yesterday at 11:15 PM

    Took a look to links from your link to get to the 4K YT. At first I wasn't that impressed until I realized it was defaulting to 480p. The 2160 stream looks amazing. Sadly, being it's a YT stream, that might be the cleanest I've seen clips from that movie. Color me impressed as I go off to find the full movie like that.