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Vlt 1.0 and Hosted Package Registries

44 points - today at 5:43 PM

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  • thataccount

    today at 6:51 PM

    I am not sure exactly what this service is or why it is desirable. Pitch me in five seconds or less?

      • clarke78

        today at 7:36 PM

        5s: save time & money

        10s: vlt helps engineering teams build JavaScript software faster, reduce supply chain risk, and lower infrastructure costs (via. API perf / payload optimizations).

        20s: If you've used npm for years & are just narrowly escaping the various malware attacks or are on the hook for running up CI/agent bills at work because cold installs are X percent of the time compared to your actual builds/runtime, then you should check us out.

        22s: Also, <insert jFrog grumble>.

          • wesleytodd

            today at 8:47 PM

            To add a bit of non-Vlt (I work on the JS Platform Team at Netflix where I have driven many of our decisions in the package manager space the past 6 years) but highly involved and supportive community member:

            The team that was able to ship the most important features for npm to be competitive in the modern JS stack from ~2020 was able to take a fresh look at the problem without the organizational baggage of Github/Microsoft.

            On the technical side, the ecosystem is maturing and we need a better set of foundational tools to meet that maturity level. This includes deep commitment to performance, security, and DX. The full product is more than just a package manager, it is a registry, a registry client, a task runner, and much more. Vlt is aiming to be this mature foundation.

            Feel free to correct me if I am wrong on anything here Darcy.

            P.S. grumble grumble...jFrog is a trash fire....grumble grumble

            • baq

              today at 8:51 PM

              ...can you make the 5s pitch be more like 'X times faster than pnpm and more secure' but fill X for me? unless it isn't pnpm at all in which case replace with 'it does X' because I've no idea after reading your post and a quick skim of the announcement itself?

                • clarke78

                  today at 9:19 PM

                  Perf is highly nuanced but we've been doing realistic benchmarking for the ecosystem for almost a year now: https://benchmarks.vlt.sh/

                  We've got more improvements coming soon but we're a roughly ~10-40% faster registry then npm out-of-the-box. Compared to incumbent enterprise registries we're like ~3x.

      • viviansolide

        today at 7:38 PM

        This will benefit the entire ecosystem. Well done.

        • nerdalytics

          today at 6:37 PM

          Over a year I joined the waitlist and almost forgot that I did. Today the registry is open to deliver on its promises—secure the supply chain.

            • clarke78

              today at 6:42 PM

              Founder here - thanks for the vote of confidence! We've got a lot more in store.

          • joeyagreco

            today at 8:00 PM

            So this is advertising as a secure npm?

            • merb

              today at 6:50 PM

              Without identity federation via oidc it’s basically not really a replacement for verdaccio

                • clarke78

                  today at 7:29 PM

                  This is coming imminently but appreciate the feedback & will push to get this landed here quickly. That said, our client does support OIDC publishing if your registry does so hopefully you'll still find value there as it's a major step up from legacy npm clients.

              • jeffbcross

                today at 8:52 PM

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