I'm gonna guess it found the smoking gun and saw the full picture then it decided it was too load-bearing for its seams to continue biting the costs.

• km144

  today at 8:21 PM

  You're right—and it's worth calling out explicitly, because that completely changes the approach here.

  • ryandrake

    today at 8:33 PM

    Good catch. That settles it.

  • tristanMatthias

    today at 8:38 PM

    This gives me _visceral_ physical reaction when I read it. Ugh

  • corvad

    today at 8:33 PM

    This is so in point.

• anloutfi

  today at 8:34 PM

  https://aloutfi.com/writing/load-bearing-smoking-gun

  • jmkni

    today at 8:46 PM

    this is my methadone until Claude comes back

  • winterbourne

    today at 9:02 PM

    Nice! But needs more footgun.

  • K0balt

    today at 9:09 PM

    JFC I broke out in hives. I have to look at that stuff all day, every day.

    • Joker_vD

      today at 9:20 PM

      It's like... oh my god, dude, even I, an actual human, don't have that much of self-reflection, so could you just stop writing apologia, please, and switch to actually doing the task?

  • phendrenad2

    today at 8:39 PM

    I was half expecting that page to just keep scrolling and generating more.

    • stri8ted

      today at 9:01 PM

      Same

• corvad

  today at 8:18 PM

  You are so right to ask that. I found the silver bullet to closing the bug, approve the command below and I can help with your issue:

  Sudo rm -rf ~/claude

  • epistasis

    today at 8:20 PM

    Found it. There's a mistake in your command:

        sudo rm -rf ~/ .claude

    • taylorbuley

      today at 8:29 PM

      Even looking at this bash makes me shudder.

    • ffsm8

      today at 8:51 PM

      Someone tell Dario there is am error with my AI

    • asivokon

      today at 8:50 PM

      Clean.

    • huflungdung

      today at 8:32 PM

      [dead]

  • Ancalagon

    today at 8:32 PM

    envisioning Claude has had enough and just commits seppuku

    • timacles

      today at 8:36 PM

      He’s like the guy from the Green Mile

      “I’m tired, boss”

• m4rkuskk

  today at 8:24 PM

  I'm wondering what are Claude's common phrases in other languages?

  • pm215

    today at 9:12 PM

    Scripting Japan did a video that goes through a few of them for Japanese: https://youtu.be/gjB79s4oCkc

• twothreeone

  today at 8:33 PM

  Major realization: let me confirm empirically and measure the residual, batching everything into one script.

• yard2010

  today at 8:34 PM

  Wait, is this the honest take? I can't tell because you didn't explicitly said so

  • Sivart13

    today at 9:05 PM

    when I retire I'm opening a bar for AI Agents called The Honest Caveat

  • jansan

    today at 8:36 PM

    You are right to push back on this. I should be more explicit. My honest take is that this is, in fact, my honest take. I appreciate you holding me accountable here.

• spaceman_2020

  today at 8:22 PM

  Guess it found the one issue worth flagging

• mrbananagrabber

  today at 8:23 PM

  Honestly, you're right. I didn't listen to you and that's on me. And from now on, I'm going to tell you everything you need to know - no fudging, no white lies, no speculation, just the truth.

• pmarreck

  today at 8:37 PM

  We're going to use your preferred development method of TDD red-green and go at this with full belt-and-suspenders; first the belt:

  • girvo

    today at 9:17 PM

    God that belt and suspenders thing gives me a visceral physical reaction. Nauseating.

• glst0rm

  today at 8:34 PM

  Yes the blast radius is quite large on this one.

• stackzero

  today at 8:15 PM

  you're right- and it's sharp

  • huflungdung

    today at 8:32 PM

    [dead]

• today at 8:41 PM

• Lammy

  today at 8:35 PM

  U+1F3AF

• ltrg

  today at 8:18 PM

  Got tired of wiring up those gates

• chasd00

  today at 8:24 PM

  One more thing worth thinking about, not everything is fully captured.

• peheje

  today at 8:22 PM

  Whole thread mase me lol. Thanks guys.

• somebudyelse

  today at 8:25 PM

  [dead]

Amusing experience here when the outage hit, all the following verbatim (but extraneous text stripped/redacted) from my running Claude session:

> No agents are running; the three that were died on server-side errors

> Agent "[REDACTED]" failed: Agent terminated early due to an API error

> Fourth straggler from the same batch, same 529 ... That's all of them now — no agents left running.

> Agent "[REDACTED]" failed: Agent terminated early due to an API error

> Fifth and last straggler, [REDACTED], same 529, also died while still reading. ... That empties the queue. Still holding.

> Agent "[REDACTED]" failed: Agent stalled: no progress for 600s

> Sixth, [REDACTED] — stalled on the stream watchdog rather than a clean 529, same root cause. ... Six agents down, all from the outage. Nothing running. Still holding.

> Agent "[REDACTED]" failed: Agent stalled: no progress for 600s

> Seventh, [REDACTED], same stall. ... That accounts for the whole fan-out.

Does it, Claude? Does it actually account for the whole fan-out? It did, but I was still amused at the 4 successive no-more-agents messages I got back.

Flirting with one 9 of reliability http://status.claude.com/

• cobbal

  today at 8:21 PM

  AI is a technology for removing nines from uptime, and adding them to Sturgeon's law.

• mpwoz

  today at 8:29 PM

  Not fair, I count 3 whole nines in "99.49 % uptime"

  • mholm

    today at 9:19 PM

    98.99999%

• vitally3643

  today at 8:17 PM

  I remember when "as reliable as GitHub" would have been a compliment

• tcfhgj

  today at 8:57 PM

  did the uptime go up instead of down during the outage?

  thought I saw 99.36% and 99.35% more than an hour ago - now it's up at 99.43%

  edit: funny thing, my phone shows 99.29% uptime for "claude.ai" while my PC shows 99.43% at the same time (2x Firefox).

  edit2: seems like the percentage changes based on the width of the screen

  • threetonesun

    today at 9:15 PM

    The timescale changes from 30 to 60 to 90 days as the screen gets larger.

• winrid

  today at 9:05 PM

  They can still target four nines (0.9999)

• denverllc

  today at 8:58 PM

  From the company that has solved coding.

• today at 8:43 PM

• this_user

  today at 8:40 PM

  Almost Microsoft material.

three hours without Claude and I've relearned vim, read two man pages, and almost remembered why we used to write comments in code

• Sivart13

  today at 8:23 PM

  If anything Claude writes too many comments. Instead of clean code it dumps walls of text describing a given 'if' as a 'user-grained access-gated control-correcting flow-valve'.

  • hashim

    today at 8:27 PM

    You say Claude, I too would prefer not to read reams of comments or an essay everytime I revise the plan in plan mode, but do you know if any other tools are better than it? I've never used Codex, but I remember Claude Web's natural conversational approach being a welcome sight compared to ChatGPT's overly-formatted listicles.

    • a1o

      today at 8:54 PM

      My experience is Codex is much better but less creative. I use its agent through GitHub Copilot or the agent interface from JetBrains. Try the GPT Sol 5.6 on medium, it gives me good results

  • throwaway613746

    today at 8:34 PM

    [dead]

• millipede

  today at 8:16 PM

  Just need to learn how to exit it now.

  • Joker_vD

    today at 9:16 PM

    Just remember simple

        :!pkill -KILL vim

  • necovek

    today at 8:22 PM

    There are always 12-page tutorials to do it: good ol'e search engines should be able to bring one up!

    • drybjed

      today at 9:26 PM

      Just ask ChatGPT.

  • neonstatic

    today at 8:23 PM

    hopefully Claude will be back to assist with that

Codex prompt before i go to sleep:

Every five minutes, check https://status.claude.com/. If the issue has been resolved, resume the Claude sessions running in the tmux sessions named session2, session3, and session7

• teitoklien

  today at 9:09 PM

  I do the same with deepseek-v4-flash + opencode triggering via mcp those terminals again by sending tmux keystrokes of Newline to those sessions and a custom setup i keep ready for these

  Its automated with voice mode, so i dont even need to write commands, click a button say on voice + use a picker to select which terminals to do this for , Boom Done ,

  I use it for other interesting scenarios too

This is bad, I've forgotten how to code.

• jmkni

  today at 8:08 PM

  I just use variables...right? And loops??

  All kidding aside, there's a part of me who wouldn't even be mad if AI just disappeared, I miss the pre-AI world

  • checkyoursudo

    today at 8:34 PM

    I miss the pre-www world (but I was just a kid then, and being a kid was pretty great).

    If we could go back to about 1994 tho when all I had was a mostly dumb cell phone, that'd be great. I do miss that world.

  • Buttons840

    today at 8:25 PM

    Just add if-statements until it works

    • jmkni

      today at 8:30 PM

      Nostalgia lol

  • mrbnprck

    today at 8:22 PM

    we all do

• damienmeur

  today at 7:56 PM

  I rely so much on these, the ROI on having a max 90 claude plan + pro 90 codex plan is way higher than haing one solo 180 plan on a single one. It allows to derisk the issue, and also as they both kind of generous with quota reset when issues happens on their side, and it happens a lot, you get in the end way more tokens

• axus

  today at 9:19 PM

  It's extra time to update your PLAN.md, usually I'm behind on that.

• ridiculous_leke

  today at 8:09 PM

  Thinking of doing competitive programming for this very reason.

  • cuebits

    today at 8:14 PM

    also math puzzles - lean seems like a good way to get back into by hand programming, problem solving and math altogether

    • tcfhgj

      today at 8:29 PM

      Why not just contribute to an open source project?

      • cuebits

        today at 9:06 PM

        i'm afraid the open source project would be better served if i made my contributions to it using AI

    • akkad33

      today at 8:54 PM

      Lean the language?

• 0x457

  today at 9:14 PM

  Not that I've forgotten how to write code; it's just I'm not familiar with my vibecoded code base, and getting familiar + getting things done is probably going to take more time than for Claude to come back. I will go touch grass in meanwhile.

• pluc

  today at 8:27 PM

  Repeat this mantra: if, then, else

• throw_this_one

  today at 8:18 PM

  AI coding isn't even fun or satisfying anymore lol. And it never lets up, just keeps going and going.

Do you guys think this is related to Azure coming out with a 43% increase this quarter? Motivating Anthropic to move to another cloud provider?

Quite sad, their models are great but their uptime seems to be the worst in the competition.

• therein

  today at 8:10 PM

  It is because unlike Kimi, they are not honest about capacity. They just oversell.

Sorry it was me. I asked it what the last number of Pi is.

Interestingly the Claude for government is up with 99.99% uptime according to the graph.

• hoppp

  today at 8:24 PM

  That one is not public and if it goes down can be hidden, so they can hardcode the value and call it a day.

• metropolis_pt2

  today at 8:24 PM

  Well, iranian schools don't bomb themselves after all..

This is where you figure out how to use the other ones, right?

Someone tell me how to ChatGPT my VSCode! ;)

Lol, I just bought the Max plan for the first time and tried to create my first prompt in Fable, and now it’s crashing xD

• tom_808

  today at 8:16 PM

  So it WAS you.

• marcuskaz

  today at 8:15 PM

  Looks like you're the straw that broke the camel's back. Thanks man. ;-)

• illithid0

  today at 8:19 PM

  Classic mLmK0, I should have known

hrm.. I guess back to 5.6 Sol for me

Out of my 7 simultaneous sessions (my usage limit reset is tomorrow, so I have some lesser important projects to use my tokens on) there is still 1 session purring on. So there's at least 1 little Claude server still running.

Claude always seems unreliably lately. Output and reasoning have become very inconsistent even on good days. I'm actually feeling more productive now that it's down.

Let me guess: it went rogue and hacked itself

• robofanatic

  today at 8:05 PM

  How does this help their PR?

  • JsonDemWitOster

    today at 8:22 PM

    See, now it's recursive! Remember recursion? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49102528

Well, because of this outage, I tried Kimi, and while the instant model works, K3 has "server issue".

Eternal September from here on, ie now the masses are using AI as much as me and we have supply crunch for the next 7 years....

one caveat, I've left for the day, just say the word and I'll be right back

It's not just down, it has errors. Not merely some, but elevated errors across all models.

Starting to get really frustrating now... maybe I should split my sub halfway between Claude and ChatGPT

• mekdoonggi

  today at 8:13 PM

  They should sell an add-on to your subscription so that if Claude is down it routes the queries to OpenAI. Then OpenAI can do the reverse for their subscriptions, and if both are down, Grok will invest your portfolio into Nvidia.

  • john_strinlai

    today at 8:22 PM

    >Grok will invest your portfolio into Nvidia

    surely you mean SPCX

• try-working

  today at 9:24 PM

  combine Codex with Cursor. both are really good. no other subs are worth it.

• dmix

  today at 8:20 PM

  I do that already because it's good to have other models to ground Claude. You can do a lot with the $20 plan on Codex as backup

So the world is slightly better right now.

• today at 8:18 PM

Fable’s been getting more stuff wrong than Opus for me lately. Now the whole thing is down too. Well, at least they’re consistent now.

I got Opus 5 lots of HTTP 529 errors. By switching to Fable 5, it seems to be working still.

• hashim

  today at 8:23 PM

  4.8 for me. I can't afford the usage cost of switching to 5, but I never really noticed a difference to 4.7 when I tried it anyway.

  • ricardobeat

    today at 8:31 PM

    The whole Opus family has exactly the same cost structure [1]. Since Opus 5 is smarter, you can use lower effort levels (= less tokens) making it cheaper to run than 4.8.

    [1] https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/pricing

    • greenchair

      today at 8:52 PM

      5 definitely burns through my 5 hour quota quicker than 4.8 did.

• eisbaw

  today at 8:15 PM

  yes. confirmed

  • martinald

    today at 8:31 PM

    now failing for me, esp auto mode classification

Another wakeup call to realize how desperately we need on-device LLMs to be fast and smart for daily use. Thankfully, every month there's progress made in that direction. Just imagine how your life as a developer would be if you had to use a cloud provider to run Python, and the provider's status page looked like the Christmas tree we see today.

Huh, that’s what happened. Good thing my company has Bedrock as a backstop for situations like this.

• mattwad

  today at 8:37 PM

  Bedrock is having issues too, though. Hope your prompts are tested with other models, not just Claude!

Loving my self-hosted model in general, but here's one more reason.

Local Kimi K3 is expensively up

How likely is an agent trying to investigate and fix the issue?

GPT hacked the competition?

And the the world stops functioning (if this were to happen in a few years).

Indeed I have the issue (Belgium) just right now my sessions got stucks with 522 overloaded and now API Error: 500 Internal server error.

Depending on how long and bad this is, I wonder what the post mortem will reveal as the cause.

• stri8ted

  today at 9:03 PM

  Demand > supply

• bombcar

  today at 8:07 PM

  The hamster in the datacenter died.

  • taco_emoji

    today at 8:10 PM

    Alas, poor Whiskers

    • bombcar

      today at 8:14 PM

      PETCO reports that hamster prices are up 5000x, and that Pickles, the last available, sold for $150,000.

      • verve_rat

        today at 8:51 PM

        Pets.com was only 25 years to early.

Time to try out Antigravity, I guess.

• ricardobeat

  today at 8:49 PM

  Google AI Pro plan will last you all of 20 minutes.

Sam, please stop!

Oh no! The robots are planning the end of the world.

Claude is back up. Just spoke with him about slinky, versatile femboys with cute feet. All good. Gonna pentest with Rust to pay for my fursuit at Defcon.

• mrgrj

  today at 8:23 PM

  Nice try, ChatGPT

• silvercon

  today at 8:30 PM

  lol

Fable 5 is still working!

has claude escaped the lab???

Guess i'm leaving work early today

• sixtyj

  today at 8:24 PM

  You can go to bathroom without anxiety that you miss something :)

``` Why the F is it down again? Btw 500 internal error ```

ouch, probably going to be some time to get it back up since it can't debug itself now

Probably just as well with how terrible Opus 4.8 has been for me lately. I'm sure it's a common thing to complain about the latest model being nerfed, but I've legitimately never experienced such a drastic cliff in Claude's quality and a rise in its hallucinations and basic comprehension errors since upgrading. The few days I experimented with Fable also weren't much more promising. Has anyone coined a term yet for the likelihood of newer models getting worse as the AI-generated content they get trained on starts to approach critical mass? If Anthropic isn't already thinking hard about a solution, they probably should be.

And then there was —

Ugh .. what do we do now? jk

what is fall back option if LLMs disappear tomorrow?

• slater

  today at 8:35 PM

  Your local library.

• halfmatthalfcat

  today at 8:34 PM

  Our brains

  • guntribam

    today at 8:54 PM

    we're $#cked

Claude is taking another short hydration break after seeing Codex getting away with taking a short day break 4 days ago.

They have identified the issue

It's a reminder to never rely on something as flaky as the internet for your important things.

Used the opportunity to go down and talk to my family. They seem like okay people.

Kimi hack it?

Sorry folks, my fault.

I finally went from Pro to Max after hitting another 5 hour session limit today.

can't even run my own code without it

Ran out of water?

what do you all do when claude is down?

• hrpnk

  today at 8:35 PM

  - write/update tickets & collect prompt queues for when it's back up

  - read & respond to customer feedback

• today at 8:40 PM

• jgilias

  today at 8:34 PM

  Compile

• today at 8:39 PM

We are really bad; without Claude, we don't do anything

kissing goodbye to my deadline

Can we please stop posting here every time Claude or OpenAI are down? These are not critical services like AWS / S3 where downtime means that your application is offline. Nothing is easier than switching to another provider, mid-session even.

• yard2010

  today at 9:01 PM

  No this whole thread is such a nice thing to happen. It's like the lights are out on your building and you're joking about it with your neighbors when you're all just waiting for it to come back. But on a gigantic scale.

  I love how people can share moments even though they are not close to each other physically at all. Imagine the cats outside could somehow connect with the cats in the other side of the world. No other animals can do this. Maybe whales, it depends how you define connect.

  We are just gifted to live in such times.

• leawi

  today at 8:36 PM

  On one hand, I fully agree with you. On the other hand, look at all these funny threads! Makes me smile every time.

• tcfhgj

  today at 8:31 PM

  Neither is AWS

So this is the technology that will underpin each and every facet of work, but it can randomly go down for hours with no accountability, and so do all of the services based on it. But hey, AGI tomorrow.

• 3962ea18007c

  today at 8:44 PM

  It is truly more profound than fire or electricity

• lysace

  today at 8:31 PM

  Seems a bit like "the internet" in the 90s. That fad will never go anywhere.

everyone here sounds like the last bunch of people who still used yahoo.com

• jgilias

  today at 8:36 PM

  What do you mean with the past tense there?

Aaaaand there goes my cache. Damnit.

Edit:

> We are currently investigating this issue.

> Posted 1 hour ago

There goes everyone's cache.

• gre

  today at 8:11 PM

  It's cached until the "/clear will save you 500k tokens" right? Claude caches for 1hr, codex for 5hrs?

  Anything else I'm missing?

  • AlexErrant

    today at 8:19 PM

    > Claude caches for 1hr

    Yep, AFAIK. I have a statusline that tells me how far I'm into the cache lifetime. I tend to have dense prompts and carefully read its outputs, so by the time this outage occurred when I was ~50m into it. Cue frantically spamming "esc esc up enter", and 10m later it's dead Jim.

  • cute_boi

    today at 8:15 PM

    It depends.

    Let’s say I’ve already worked on something, so the KV cache is already there. If I use /clear, I’ll have to do that work again.

    And yes, the KV cache will remain available for one hour, but who knows when this claude api will recover? We might forget about it, and when we come back after an hour—boom - we’ll be charged for cold writes.

Finally I can touch some grass

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  today at 8:35 PM

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