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What's Under Your Feet in New York City?

132 points - last Wednesday at 12:56 PM

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  • mike_hock

    today at 3:47 PM

    That's where the mutants live. Also, there's a thousand year old, old New York City buried underneath that had bathroom booths with phones in them.

      • throw1234567891

        today at 6:57 PM

        And those weird booths that look like suicide booths, are no suicide booths. I love you, meatbags! Hello, it’s me, Bender Rodriguez!

        • argelio4321

          today at 7:07 PM

          Argelio

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        • radicality

          today at 7:21 PM

          This is quite informative and useful as I live in NYC. I think in the video he mentioned that the city is collecting all that data on what’s underground to collect all in a database and make repairs easier - anyone know if such data is or will be public, like on data.ny.gov ? And what I’m getting at, is it would be really cool to have this kind of 3d visualization like in the video, but based on actual real data so I could view what’s actually underneath the streets I walk every day.

          • dbuxton

            today at 7:43 PM

            I can’t read something like this without thinking of the late great Richard Scarry

            Luckily ChatGPt does a pretty good impression https://chatgpt.com/s/m_6a6662e9af6c81918523fb06d1384e74

            • hotstickyballs

              today at 2:54 PM

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_synagogue_tunnel...

                • dataviz1000

                  today at 3:09 PM

                  Meanwhile in place of power, cable, and phone lines there is a related 18 mile translucent line hung in order to turn the entire city into one big happy home called a *eruv* -- following the law of the highest of high courts to the letter. [0]

                  [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSldb9IMDVU

                    • woodruffw

                      today at 3:56 PM

                      AFAIK the eruvim are not dictated by “high courts” (there is no “high court” at all), but are instead constructed and maintained by various Orthodox groups. Not all Orthodox groups agree about their propriety either, so the presence of an eruv doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s recognized.

                      (Also pedantic, but it’s not the entire city: there’s a Manhattan eruv that covers a large part of Manhattan, while Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx have separate smaller eruvim.)

                        • randallsquared

                          today at 6:11 PM

                          There's a lot one could say about

                          > following the law of the highest of high courts to the letter.

                          but I don't think that "there is no 'high court' at all" is one, for believers.

                            • woodruffw

                              today at 6:23 PM

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                      • radicality

                        today at 7:15 PM

                        I live in nyc, when I first heard of the eruv couldn’t believe they would come up with such elaborate hacks just to ‘technically’ still be following their religious laws! Now if I remember I try and spot it when out.

                        It also has a status page! https://eruv.nyc/

                          • frantathefranta

                            today at 8:43 PM

                            Somebody posted on HN before about an eruv index, that’s how I found my city had one as well[0]. I assume they got sort of popular around Jewish neighborhoods.

                            [0]https://eruv-columbus.com/

                    • cogman10

                      today at 3:31 PM

                      This is a very weird story.

                      Religious infighting with 2 fundamentalist sects that somehow boiled down to some people digging a tunnel connecting 2 buildings because of... reasons? Like it seems like they thought that if they built the tunnel that'd magically lead to everyone deciding "You know what, this expansion project is a good thing!"

                      Very bizarre.

                      Regardless, I'm glad it got shut down before a collapse killed someone.

                        • woodruffw

                          today at 3:38 PM

                          > Religious infighting with 2 fundamentalist sects that somehow boiled down to some people digging a tunnel connecting 2 buildings because of... reasons?

                          The very short version is that both groups claim ownership of that building, and one of them wants to expand it significantly. Neither group is allowed to modify the building because of a court order, so the one that wants to modify it did it surreptitiously in an attempt to create facts on the ground that would modify the status quo.

                          (Obviously none of this is sensible, but the actual reasons are pretty quotidian.)

                      • masfuerte

                        today at 4:00 PM

                        It's quite frustrating. The story ends with:

                        > four defendants refused to accept a plea deal and were set to be tried in April 2025

                        I can find loads of stories reporting those facts, but I can't find an account of what happened next. Did they change their pleas? Were they tried?

                        • rdtsc

                          today at 3:12 PM

                          An illegal tunnel in a densely populated city like that is a bold move.

                          This was unexpected though:

                          > stills taken from videos of the synagogue's interior as well as the room leading to the tunnel, which showed a stained mattress and high chair, respectively, fueled antisemitic conspiracy theories

                          > A USA Today fact-check stated that the stained mattress seen in viral videos had been removed from behind wood paneling of the synagogue rather than from the tunnel itself, undermining online speculation that the mattresses were in the tunnel

                            • noworriesnate

                              today at 6:42 PM

                              Here's a video in which a Rabbi who is a member of the sect clarifies the story:

                              https://xcancel.com/Truthtellerftm/status/197901264211193488...

                                • burkaman

                                  today at 7:30 PM

                                  This is a clip from a comedy podcast called 9/11 is Gay.

                              • mschuster91

                                today at 8:52 PM

                                > An illegal tunnel in a densely populated city like that is a bold move.

                                I'd say it was an utterly braindead move and pretty much everyone involved is lucky to be alive.

                                There's just so, so much dangerous stuff you can hit below ground - high voltage cables that really, really do not like it if you even nick them, high current cables giving off nasty electromagnetic fields, ordinary low voltage cables whose isolation is already degraded, old water, gas, steam and sewer mains that may or may not burst simply because the only thing holding together the rust is the pressure from the soil, other, maybe long forgotten tunnels...

                                And that's before even getting into the issue of potentially getting caved in, creating a sinkhole or an ingress avenue for stormwater.

                        • theletterf

                          today at 7:26 PM

                          This is fantastic, but I so hoped it would come with an infographic of NY's underworld, slice of cake style. I recall seeing one somewhere, but my attempts at finding it again all failed.

                            • ozyschmozy

                              today at 8:31 PM

                              The video does have something like that, it's not labeled though, rather he goes through each part and highlights the part he's talking about

                          • programmertote

                            today at 6:10 PM

                            One of the most informative videos from Practical Engineering channel. I thought I knew NYC infra fairly well, but I learned so much from that video still (like how NYC's electric grid is actually a grid and more fault tolerant).

                            • barrenko

                              today at 7:29 PM

                              Pieces of Belgian cities?

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                              • zkmon

                                today at 4:31 PM

                                Fascinating. Anything that grows up above ground has a proportionate growth below ground as well.

                                • VoodooJuJu

                                  today at 2:27 PM

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                                  • dfaoidsoi

                                    today at 3:31 PM

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