What's Under Your Feet in New York City?
132 points - last Wednesday at 12:56 PM
Sourcemike_hock
today at 3:47 PM
That's where the mutants live. Also, there's a thousand year old, old New York City buried underneath that had bathroom booths with phones in them.
throw1234567891
today at 6:57 PM
And those weird booths that look like suicide booths, are no suicide booths. I love you, meatbags! Hello, itâs me, Bender Rodriguez!
argelio4321
today at 7:07 PM
Argelio
radicality
today at 7:21 PM
This is quite informative and useful as I live in NYC. I think in the video he mentioned that the city is collecting all that data on whatâs underground to collect all in a database and make repairs easier - anyone know if such data is or will be public, like on data.ny.gov ?
And what Iâm getting at, is it would be really cool to have this kind of 3d visualization like in the video, but based on actual real data so I could view whatâs actually underneath the streets I walk every day.
hotstickyballs
today at 2:54 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_synagogue_tunnel...
dataviz1000
today at 3:09 PM
Meanwhile in place of power, cable, and phone lines there is a related 18 mile translucent line hung in order to turn the entire city into one big happy home called a *eruv* -- following the law of the highest of high courts to the letter. [0]
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSldb9IMDVU
woodruffw
today at 3:56 PM
AFAIK the eruvim are not dictated by âhigh courtsâ (there is no âhigh courtâ at all), but are instead constructed and maintained by various Orthodox groups. Not all Orthodox groups agree about their propriety either, so the presence of an eruv doesnât necessarily mean that itâs recognized.
(Also pedantic, but itâs not the entire city: thereâs a Manhattan eruv that covers a large part of Manhattan, while Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx have separate smaller eruvim.)
randallsquared
today at 6:11 PM
There's a lot one could say about
> following the law of the highest of high courts to the letter.
but I don't think that "there is no 'high court' at all" is one, for believers.
woodruffw
today at 6:23 PM
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radicality
today at 7:15 PM
I live in nyc, when I first heard of the eruv couldnât believe they would come up with such elaborate hacks just to âtechnicallyâ still be following their religious laws! Now if I remember I try and spot it when out.
It also has a status page! https://eruv.nyc/
frantathefranta
today at 8:43 PM
Somebody posted on HN before about an eruv index, thatâs how I found my city had one as well[0]. I assume they got sort of popular around Jewish neighborhoods.
[0]https://eruv-columbus.com/
This is a very weird story.
Religious infighting with 2 fundamentalist sects that somehow boiled down to some people digging a tunnel connecting 2 buildings because of... reasons? Like it seems like they thought that if they built the tunnel that'd magically lead to everyone deciding "You know what, this expansion project is a good thing!"
Very bizarre.
Regardless, I'm glad it got shut down before a collapse killed someone.
woodruffw
today at 3:38 PM
> Religious infighting with 2 fundamentalist sects that somehow boiled down to some people digging a tunnel connecting 2 buildings because of... reasons?
The very short version is that both groups claim ownership of that building, and one of them wants to expand it significantly. Neither group is allowed to modify the building because of a court order, so the one that wants to modify it did it surreptitiously in an attempt to create facts on the ground that would modify the status quo.
(Obviously none of this is sensible, but the actual reasons are pretty quotidian.)
masfuerte
today at 4:00 PM
It's quite frustrating. The story ends with:
> four defendants refused to accept a plea deal and were set to be tried in April 2025
I can find loads of stories reporting those facts, but I can't find an account of what happened next. Did they change their pleas? Were they tried?
An illegal tunnel in a densely populated city like that is a bold move.
This was unexpected though:
> stills taken from videos of the synagogue's interior as well as the room leading to the tunnel, which showed a stained mattress and high chair, respectively, fueled antisemitic conspiracy theories
> A USA Today fact-check stated that the stained mattress seen in viral videos had been removed from behind wood paneling of the synagogue rather than from the tunnel itself, undermining online speculation that the mattresses were in the tunnel
mschuster91
today at 8:52 PM
> An illegal tunnel in a densely populated city like that is a bold move.
I'd say it was an utterly braindead move and pretty much everyone involved is lucky to be alive.
There's just so, so much dangerous stuff you can hit below ground - high voltage cables that really, really do not like it if you even nick them, high current cables giving off nasty electromagnetic fields, ordinary low voltage cables whose isolation is already degraded, old water, gas, steam and sewer mains that may or may not burst simply because the only thing holding together the rust is the pressure from the soil, other, maybe long forgotten tunnels...
And that's before even getting into the issue of potentially getting caved in, creating a sinkhole or an ingress avenue for stormwater.
theletterf
today at 7:26 PM
This is fantastic, but I so hoped it would come with an infographic of NY's underworld, slice of cake style. I recall seeing one somewhere, but my attempts at finding it again all failed.
ozyschmozy
today at 8:31 PM
The video does have something like that, it's not labeled though, rather he goes through each part and highlights the part he's talking about
programmertote
today at 6:10 PM
One of the most informative videos from Practical Engineering channel. I thought I knew NYC infra fairly well, but I learned so much from that video still (like how NYC's electric grid is actually a grid and more fault tolerant).
Pieces of Belgian cities?
Fascinating. Anything that grows up above ground has a proportionate growth below ground as well.
VoodooJuJu
today at 2:27 PM
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dfaoidsoi
today at 3:31 PM
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