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AWS: Inaccurate Estimated Billing Data – $1.7 billion

914 points - today at 9:42 AM


URL already posted: https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status

I've got an estimated bill for $1.7 BILLION over this month. Normal usage is < $5.

Obvs have created an urgent AWS support ticket. Anyone else seeing something like this?

Update: Reddit link: https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/1uyuaw7/help_my_bill_s...

  • donavanm

    today at 4:56 PM

    Ive dealt with this error at AWS. It’s a unit error. In my case we _meant_ to charge like 5±/GB, but missed the unit (GB), and then the billing system defaults to bytes. 5± per Byte of data transferred meant some customers were seeing MM bills within hours. Got paged by support around 2am, had it fixed and amendments issues by 3-4am, apology emails shortly after.

    Services emit metering values that arent directly tied to prices. Every SKU/line item is defined in a “pricing plan”, with a unit type, regions, and price per unit. The metering records are joined to a pricing plan based on account id, region, sku, etc. mess up the unit type in the pricing plan and the metering data conversion doesnt work, and you get crazy bills.

      • 01284a7e

        today at 5:15 PM

        No tests? Just mess up some mundane detail [1] and voila! Wake-up calls and heart attacks for 100,000s of administrators?

        1: "Oh, well, this is not a mundane detail, Michael!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fGHaVn5rGo

          • CobrastanJorji

            today at 8:16 PM

            There will have been tests, but there will have been missing end-to-end tests. Test 1 will verify that the new system/product emits billing entries in some expected way ("We did 100 bytes of operations and we see we called the billing system for 100 bytes of stuff, yay, test pass"). Test 2 will be in the billing system ("We provide an incoming bill for SKU#12345 for 100 gigabyte-units and we see it costs $17, yay, test passes"). But they won't test the two things together because it will be harder to do and the teams will have different management chains. Seen it happen several times at several companies. Somebody will have said at some point "we should actually have the tests charge money" and somebody else will have said "well we can't have the tests actually charge money, that's a legal/accounting problem, it might even be a crime" and then nobody would have asked what the next best thing was.

            • akdev1l

              today at 5:30 PM

              Not even tests but just some basic anomaly detection lol.

              Like maybe if the bill amounts increase by like 10M% there should be someone that looks into it

                • qurren

                  today at 5:36 PM

                  You overestimate how much people give shits at big techs like Amazon. When literally everything is driven with sticks instead of carrots, the work culture does not invite employees to proactively care about product quality.

                  You'd be better off letting the heart attacks happen and take the 3am on-call and be the hero instead. It would be good promo doc material, and being a hero is extremely good insurance against getting kicked out of the country (via the PIP->H1B grace period expiry mechanism).

                    • mightyham

                      today at 7:06 PM

                      Speaking from my experience at Amazon this is not the case. Any customer impact like this would necessitate a COE (correction of errors) report, which means a list of required action items to prevent such issues from happening again, which typically suck up at least man-month of labor. Not to mention the report itself, which has to be written by a manager.

                      In fact, there are regular AWS-wide meetings where L10 technical staff will randomly pick and review reports from across the organization. Getting picked for one of these is not a fun experience.

                      COEs are such a huge annoyance for teams that they create a strong incentive to be proactive in preventing issues like this from happening. One of the rules when it comes to writing COEs is that they are not the fault of individuals but processes; but in reality, no one wants to be the cause of one.

                        • eventualcomp

                          today at 7:47 PM

                          Amazon is heterogeneous. So much so, that positive anecdotes and negative anecdotes are near worthless without specifying the org.

                          Depending on if you're a cost cutting team, fixed expense team or organization, if you're a revenue driving team, or if you're a core team, or the very many other splits you can come up about the relationship between the expense/balance sheets and the team itself...there are very very different attitudes towards COEs and leadership principles.

                          • awakeasleep

                            today at 9:07 PM

                            Having been the manager writing those reports, you can only practically find causes that are within a single team’s ability to resolve.

                            If you find a problem like this thread’s hypothetical, the process stops being an annoyance just to line level managers, and something that directors and vice presidents need to handle by changing strategic priorities within their organizations.

                            That entails a real loss of face for them, and because they are the ones who actually run the show, it would will only happen if you have one that is naĂŻve or a masochist. In either case that moves them out of management.

                        • nullorempty

                          today at 5:59 PM

                          This ^^^ amplified by indifference and not giving a shit caused by "AI Adoption".

                          There is literally no fucking reason to try to improve your skill. Any IDIOT with AI will do an OK job.

                          And no one is shooting for better than OK.

                          • tyre

                            today at 5:54 PM

                            Are you speaking from experience or simply making things up? I know a fair number of former AWS engineers and managers. None of them think like this.

                              • mendigou

                                today at 6:48 PM

                                I am former AWS and this is pretty accurate.

                                The other factor to add here is that, with some exceptions, the whole company feels like a Rube Goldberg machine and very few people care about what happens outside their cog (because they’re not incentivized to do so).

                                • zelphirkalt

                                  today at 6:21 PM

                                  Maybe they are former AWS employees for a reason and now want things to go better than they were at AWS.

                                    • nullsanity

                                      today at 6:33 PM

                                      [dead]

                                  • geodel

                                    today at 6:07 PM

                                    "Former" seems to an important detail here.

                                      • switchbak

                                        today at 6:56 PM

                                        If I worked at a place like that, I'd sure as hell work my butt of to get a job somewhere else.

                                        Or in my case, actively ignore any and all recruiting from that sesspool.

                                        • gleenn

                                          today at 6:35 PM

                                          If someone quits their job, do all their opinions suddenly become suspect? You're kind of damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't. Either you work for the company and you are biased one way, or you quit and now your bias is now suddenly the other way. I've joined and quit many jobs and my opinion may or may not have changed due to my change in status but it is clearly and ad hominem attack.

                                            • FabCH

                                              today at 8:18 PM

                                              Not the OP, but:

                                              The point was not that their opinion is suspect, the point was that they are former because people who care about the customer get fired and/or that everyone who cared is former, so nobody who is left cares.

                                      • qurren

                                        today at 7:51 PM

                                        Yes, I am a former AWS employee.

                                        I got put on Focus because my "contributions were not coming through" to leadership.

                                    • thewebguyd

                                      today at 8:16 PM

                                      > take the 3am on-call and be the hero instead

                                      Ah yes, the good old ITism "Everything's good, what are we even paying you for?" followed by "Everything's on fire, what are we even paying you for?"

                                      I moved out of it largely for that reason, am now an infrastructure/IT project manager, quite refreshing actually.

                                        • dice

                                          today at 9:09 PM

                                          How did you swing that transition? Did you study for PMP before applying around, leverage network to get in the door then backfill skills, or what?

                                          • qurren

                                            today at 8:42 PM

                                            The trick to surviving under such management is to jump in and put out other peoples' fires but not spend time preventing them even if you know how to.

                                    • mcpherrinm

                                      today at 6:59 PM

                                      While I didn't work on AWS, I did intern on the retail side of Amazon, and there's definitely this sort of monitoring in place. Surely somebody was paged. And even if not, this is "just" the cost explorer estimations, not what is ending up on folk's bills.

                                      I learned about <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_T%C5%8Dhoku_earthquake_an...> from alarms like this, as sales in Japan almost entirely stopped.

                                      I've been told a tale of another incident where some customer ran some huge cpu-intensive workload that didn't do any networking. It caused various alarms to fire because it "looked like" a part of the network was idle (potentially indicating some sort of networking failure)

                                      It's generally (in the broad sense) easy to add alarms for things going wrong, but in my experience anomaly detectors are just as likely to fire from other weird things like that happening.

                                      • el1s7

                                        today at 8:49 PM

                                        I think billing is the only thing AWS doesn't really care about optimizing or putting enough tests to avoid anomalies lol.

                                        • Groxx

                                          today at 7:44 PM

                                          They've already got anomaly detection: their users.

                                          • 01284a7e

                                            today at 5:36 PM

                                            If only there was some way to get anomaly detection services [1] inside of AWS...

                                            1: https://aws.amazon.com/what-is/anomaly-detection/

                                        • deltaray3

                                          today at 6:45 PM

                                          It's just like in Superman III

                                          • mvdtnz

                                            today at 6:13 PM

                                            Why would you think there are "no tests"?

                                              • 27183

                                                today at 6:53 PM

                                                We have a pretty strong existence proof... the thing happened in production. Unless they have some means to override a failing test and scp broken shit to prod, there wasn't a test.

                                                  • chasd00

                                                    today at 7:32 PM

                                                    why would a test setting unit to Bytes fail and not MB, KB, or GB, and so on? That's like trying create a unit test for email opt-in, both true and false are valid values. It's up to the user to select the right one.

                                                      • 27183

                                                        today at 8:22 PM

                                                        I'm not quite following your objection.. I'd expect a test that checks the multiplier is correct would detect orders of magnitude discrepancy. So if you're billing $x/byte you'd write a test for the billing thing that checks that, given y bytes, the bill is x*y.

                                                        [edit] This may need to be an integration test to be effective, there is a certain peril to mocking that could bite you here. But that's fine, we have the technology.

                                                    • nullorempty

                                                      today at 7:05 PM

                                                      Technically, there could be a test. It could just be wrong!

                                                        • 27183

                                                          today at 7:09 PM

                                                          If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it...

                                                          [edit] Testing your tests, like testing your backups, is a good idea

                                                            • fragmede

                                                              today at 9:02 PM

                                                              Yes, test the negative case as well. eg if you get the system setup so you can log in, also make sure you get permission denied for bad login info.

                                          • Twirrim

                                            today at 7:54 PM

                                            I wonder if AWS billing still uses CSV files for passing data around.

                                            IIRC it was one of my first on-calls at AWS over a decade ago now, and I got a page early evening because some stuff we did with billing records broke because some "smart" engineer thought it'd be a great idea to put an experimental record in with a description something like "I wonder what happens if I put, a comma in this field", into the production record. I watched region after region fail the same way as the record spread. That one engineer made a mess of lots of people's evenings. They could have used the test endpoint, but no. Much better to test in production!

                                              • anvuong

                                                today at 8:42 PM

                                                That was just a massive operational failure, not the fault of any single engineer. No change, except hotfixes, should be able to land on prod unless it has at least go through test, staging, and at the scale of Amazon, shadow testing.

                                                Engineers will do what engineers will always want to do, they want to see how things break, and sometimes they manage to fix it.

                                                • hotstickyballs

                                                  today at 8:05 PM

                                                  CSV files are widely known to be used by the most frugal companies so of course it is.

                                                    • fragmede

                                                      today at 9:03 PM

                                                      Have you seen what RDS costs“ AWS couldn't possibly afford that!

                                              • sscaryterry

                                                today at 7:34 PM

                                                This isn't a flippant comment. Imagine though, being presented with this. Imagine having some underlying health problem (e.g. cardiovascular).

                                                Do not be surprised if real people actually die from this mistake, from the anxiety, the surprise, the helplessness.

                                                  • edelbitter

                                                    today at 7:50 PM

                                                    [dead]

                                                • nurettin

                                                  today at 5:41 PM

                                                  This is why I always fail loud rather than pick a stupid default.

                                                  • crossroadsguy

                                                    today at 6:10 PM

                                                    Had it been half a million dollars or something or say like a few hundred dollars?

                                                    • dev_l1x_be

                                                      today at 8:04 PM

                                                      Imagine a programming language that has physical measurement unit support so this could have never happened.

                                                      • pudgywalsh

                                                        today at 5:25 PM

                                                        "I must've put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. I always mess up some mundane detail."

                                                          • AlotOfReading

                                                            today at 5:45 PM

                                                            Unit mistakes happen all the time, which is why you should be using your units library religiously and still being vigilant even then.

                                                            Worst case I've found was off by 15 orders of magnitude.

                                                              • gleenn

                                                                today at 6:37 PM

                                                                One of the Mars landers famously failed due to unit conversion errors from metric to standard.

                                                                  • blemasle

                                                                    today at 7:15 PM

                                                                    I didn't know the imperial system was named "standard". Funny, cause its everything but standard both internationally and its definitions (which are not standard as based on SI)

                                                                      • fc417fc802

                                                                        today at 8:07 PM

                                                                        Claiming something isn't standard because it isn't based on SI is entirely circular in the case of weights and measures.

                                                                        That said I wish the US would bite the bullet and make the switch. Mandating dual labeling on everything would be a great start. Then in 20 years we could narrow it back down to one.

                                                                          • reddalo

                                                                            today at 8:50 PM

                                                                            You just need to start teaching kids the metric system. Then when they'll grow up the switch will almost magically happen by itself.

                                                                        • Dan_-

                                                                          today at 7:37 PM

                                                                          I know you’re being snarky, but the US system is not “imperial” anyway. It’s properly “US Customary” but is often called “US Standard.”

                                                                      • golem14

                                                                        today at 7:00 PM

                                                                        Wasn't it (also?) the Ariane V flight in 1996? Oh, NVM, that was an overflow error.

                                                                    • zapkyeskrill

                                                                      today at 6:57 PM

                                                                      Degrees, very funny.

                                                                      • 27183

                                                                        today at 6:55 PM

                                                                        It's not difficult to write regression tests that catch unit mistakes.

                                                                    • anvuong

                                                                      today at 8:48 PM

                                                                      Multiple rockets exploded and space missions failed because of the imperial vs. metric BS, and those mistakes were made by people all with PhDs or equivalences. This is still pretty mild in comparison haha.

                                                                      Units and datetime will always be the bane of any professions ...

                                                              • yuchen20

                                                                today at 11:07 AM

                                                                I got 3 consecutive emails warning that my budget crossed its $18 threshold. Opened it up: cost was 78 million. Thought it was a phishing attempt, logged into my actual account, and... still 78 million. EMOTIONAL DAMAGE.

                                                                  • root-parent

                                                                    today at 2:46 PM

                                                                    Wanna bet the description of this job post will be updated by the end of the day?

                                                                    "Software Development Engineer II, AWS Invoicing"

                                                                    https://www.amazon.jobs/de/jobs/10428480/software-developmen...

                                                                    "...Our platforms are powered by generative AI, large language models, knowledge graphs, and agentic architectures that dynamically compose specialized agents based on context. We apply these capabilities across three reinforcing areas: intelligent launch readiness — where autonomous AI agents analyze, generate, and validate the information needed to go live in a new market; cloud-native service orchestration — where configuration-driven microservices replace per-launch bespoke engineering with centralized, reusable capabilities so that expanding into a new country becomes a zero-code configuration change rather than a development cycle; and continuous validation..."

                                                                      • ibejoeb

                                                                        today at 3:12 PM

                                                                        Wow:

                                                                            In this role you will:
                                                                            - Design and build agentic AI systems that analyze, generate, and validate...
                                                                            - Build agentic architectures that compose specialized AI agents dynamically...
                                                                            - Build AI-driven continuous validation frameworks powered by agentic workflows and large language models that autonomously manage...
                                                                        
                                                                        
                                                                        This is invoicing? If ever there was a domain that was purely deterministic, you'd hope it was invoicing.

                                                                          • root-parent

                                                                            today at 3:13 PM

                                                                            The irony is, the only purely deterministic thing, will be token consumption...

                                                                              • jdiff

                                                                                today at 3:22 PM

                                                                                I severely doubt the world ever gets to such a point that the entire world melts into AI hallucination. And token consumption depends on so many other things, it's not all that deterministic either.

                                                                                  • serf

                                                                                    today at 3:46 PM

                                                                                    (token usage) is trending towards predictability for a lot of reasons. it's not deterministic but it's getting easier to reason about usage.

                                                                                • LetsGetTechnicl

                                                                                  today at 4:16 PM

                                                                                  How can a random generator be deterministic?

                                                                            • curun1r

                                                                              today at 5:17 PM

                                                                              I’m not so sure about that. I can see a real rationale for creating sanity checks using AI to more quickly/proactively catch pathological billing issues before they become HN nightmare stories. They wouldn’t replace billing code, but there are many ways that stupid customer mistakes can cause real costs to Amazon that either have to be refunded and absorbed by Amazon or paid by the customer causing a negative opinion of AWS. If a billing AI watching costs in realtime could detect, say, a lambda loop in the first 10 min and either alert the customer or kill it, that would make AWS feel a lot safer to use. Enumerating these conditions and fixing them individually is a task that Amazon has proven incapable of achieving. An AI watchdog layer might be the perfect shortcut to addressing all of these problems at once. Because it’s well-trodden territory that AWS has so many multi-thousand dollar foot guns that make it really scary to use as a hobbyist or small business on a tight budget.

                                                                                • hvb2

                                                                                  today at 6:12 PM

                                                                                  > I can see a real rationale for creating sanity checks using AI to more quickly/proactively catch pathological billing issues before they become HN nightmare stories

                                                                                  Right, so invoicing is still a deterministic problem. You can bolt whatever on but in the end it's just product x price x units

                                                                                  • skywhopper

                                                                                    today at 8:23 PM

                                                                                    This is exactly the sort of thing that’s not possible, though. An AI will not be able to detect a “lambda loop” because it will look exactly like a “successful lambda rollout”. This sort of watchdog would just as likely shut down the wrong things and make AWS feel a lot less safe.

                                                                                • londons_explore

                                                                                  today at 4:55 PM

                                                                                  Probably not actually. Transferring one kilobyte across a network link has such a low value that the billing costs of aggregating it cost more than the revenue.

                                                                                  So instead you take a probabilistic approach - charge the user for a megabyte of data transfer 0.1% of the time, and bill nothing 99.9% of the time.

                                                                                  Now the typical cost is the same, the users bill is probably accurate to the cent, but you have divided the number of billing records by 1000.

                                                                                    • svobodovic

                                                                                      today at 7:14 PM

                                                                                      I don't know how cloud services count usage, but this is certainly not true for telco. I manage several fleets of hundreds/thousands of SIM cards (mostly IoT/M2M applications), and almost every provider counts the data traffic per byte. Different business and use case, I know, but still.

                                                                                      • michaelmrose

                                                                                        today at 6:19 PM

                                                                                        The way you describe requires somehow counting every bit but somehow discarding most which is obviously nonsense.

                                                                                        This seems statistically invalid insofar as it will tend to overbill potentially by a lot on the minority of cases.

                                                                                        Don't you know how much of the pipe is occupied by a given customers code at any given time or what data is being sent

                                                                                          • londons_explore

                                                                                            today at 7:24 PM

                                                                                            You have to do it when the customer list is too big to keep a counter per customer.

                                                                                              • fc417fc802

                                                                                                today at 8:19 PM

                                                                                                A probabilistic counter per customer is also a counter per customer. Still, probabilistic billing is an amusing thought though.

                                                                                                • michaelmrose

                                                                                                  today at 8:00 PM

                                                                                                  No you don't

                                                                                      • TJSomething

                                                                                        today at 6:58 PM

                                                                                        This is like half of all job listings I've read recently. And it's a decent amount of fintech that's like this.

                                                                                    • blitzar

                                                                                      today at 3:52 PM

                                                                                      > 194,400.00 USD annually

                                                                                      Fuck it, im in.

                                                                                        • fragmede

                                                                                          today at 9:08 PM

                                                                                          That's base, don't forget bonus and stock.

                                                                                          • TheOtherHobbes

                                                                                            today at 6:27 PM

                                                                                            Just wait until the same system runs payroll and you're getting paid $1.94400 annually.

                                                                                              • blitzar

                                                                                                today at 6:38 PM

                                                                                                I will just tell the HR bot that I am meant to be paid 1.944 billion.

                                                                                                • sgarland

                                                                                                  today at 6:45 PM

                                                                                                  10/10, no notes.

                                                                                          • sebmellen

                                                                                            today at 3:04 PM

                                                                                            That job description feels so far beyond parody that I could scarcely believe it until opening the link! What a world.

                                                                                              • root-parent

                                                                                                today at 3:07 PM

                                                                                                It gets worst:

                                                                                                "Senior Software Development Manager, AWS Global Bill Generation" https://www.amazon.jobs/de/jobs/10471948/senior-software-dev...

                                                                                                "We're transforming from monthly batch processing and manual war rooms to continuous billing, autonomous agents, and self-healing infrastructure. We believe operational burden is a technical problem, not a staffing problem"

                                                                                                This looks clearly...a staffing problem...

                                                                                                  • ghurtado

                                                                                                    today at 3:29 PM

                                                                                                    > This looks clearly...a staffing problem..

                                                                                                    I think that big tech recently decided that I got 99 problems but staffing ain't one

                                                                                                    I guess Nothing is a staffing problem when you make a rule that firing people is always the solution.

                                                                                                    • wbl

                                                                                                      today at 3:36 PM

                                                                                                      If you can make the software cover the toil you save the staff for the tough cases.

                                                                                                      • quickthrowman

                                                                                                        today at 4:59 PM

                                                                                                        They need to fire whoever is running AP and AP software development. Vibe invoicing is ridiculous for anyone to do, let alone Amazon.

                                                                                                        • today at 3:18 PM

                                                                                                          • iam-TJ

                                                                                                            today at 3:23 PM

                                                                                                            The best bit of that is:

                                                                                                            > In this role, you will own end-to-end bill run execution across all AWS partitions, drive the technical vision for autonomous billing operations, and build the team that ensures every customer receives an accurate cost estimated in minutes ...

                                                                                                        • LPisGood

                                                                                                          today at 4:41 PM

                                                                                                          Seriously! If I were making a joke I would say something like

                                                                                                          > Build AI-driven continuous validation frameworks powered by agentic workflows and large language models that autonomously manage


                                                                                                          But that’s word for word a 250k+ TC job in the big ‘26.

                                                                                                          • paganel

                                                                                                            today at 4:04 PM

                                                                                                            > enabling domain experts to review in hours what previously took weeks.

                                                                                                            This is a gold-mine. They need to get sued heavily for this incompetence.

                                                                                                    • rcleveng

                                                                                                      today at 2:33 PM

                                                                                                      I did too, those awstrack.me URL's look super suspicious and I hadn't seen this alert trigger before so didn't know what to expect.

                                                                                                      At first I was sure it was a phishing attempt. Then went to the console (not using those links) Saw there was an outage where the console was wrong (no mention of email alerts) Then I thought I was hacked - what a perfect cover up for someone to evade detection when the console was wrong. Looked at some logs, realized the incident text was just not exhaustive on the impact. Went back to my cup of coffee.

                                                                                                      Note to self- should have looked here first.

                                                                                                      • jayanmn

                                                                                                        today at 3:42 PM

                                                                                                        Enterprise account . We got - 3trillion and change

                                                                                                          • chii

                                                                                                            today at 3:47 PM

                                                                                                            -$3 trillion! That's the highest earning investment that has ever existed!

                                                                                                            • theflyingelvis

                                                                                                              today at 4:26 PM

                                                                                                              3.7 billion. Offered to pay it in monthly installments. Haven’t hears back

                                                                                                              • idiotsecant

                                                                                                                today at 3:57 PM

                                                                                                                Quick do your IPO before the books update

                                                                                                                  • munk-a

                                                                                                                    today at 7:50 PM

                                                                                                                    It's true, if you're spending that much money you must be worth a ton! Just look at SpaceX!

                                                                                                                • rconti

                                                                                                                  today at 8:31 PM

                                                                                                                  same. over 2t in one day.

                                                                                                              • antognini

                                                                                                                today at 7:41 PM

                                                                                                                To paraphrase the old joke, if you wake up with a $78,000 AWS bill, you have a problem. If you wake up with a $78 million AWS bill, Amazon has a problem.

                                                                                                                • corvad

                                                                                                                  today at 7:55 PM

                                                                                                                  Please do not open up emails directly always login to your account.

                                                                                                                  • 01284a7e

                                                                                                                    today at 3:50 PM

                                                                                                                    Yes, I am taking legal action, no doubt.

                                                                                                                      • bot403

                                                                                                                        today at 6:06 PM

                                                                                                                        Why? What's the damages? They showed you a wrong number, then later acknowledged it and fixed it. Just because the number was "very big" to you doesn't mean you were actually aggrieved in some way.

                                                                                                                          • amelius

                                                                                                                            today at 6:21 PM

                                                                                                                            Big numbers can lead to stress which can lead to all kinds of disorders.

                                                                                                                              • TheSoftwareGuy

                                                                                                                                today at 7:41 PM

                                                                                                                                In order to successfully sue for emotional damages, you have to prove quantifiable damages. Usually that means if you ended up having to get therapy to deal with it, you can sue for the cost of the therapy.

                                                                                                                                • mito88

                                                                                                                                  today at 7:03 PM

                                                                                                                                  small numbers too....

                                                                                                                                  :)

                                                                                                                                    • fc417fc802

                                                                                                                                      today at 8:26 PM

                                                                                                                                      We should just go with numbers in general in order to play it safe. The new guidance from legal is absolutely no numbers on invoices for liability reasons. Similar to the removal of actual math from math class we're going to let the experts figure out how to implement it.

                                                                                                                          • dymk

                                                                                                                            today at 4:54 PM

                                                                                                                            
for emotional damage?

                                                                                                                              • inigyou

                                                                                                                                today at 5:56 PM

                                                                                                                                If you were a business maybe you could claim for the emergency on-call time spent diagnosing, but you'd probably still lose AND amazon would fire you as a customer.

                                                                                                                        • SegfaultSeagull

                                                                                                                          today at 2:28 PM

                                                                                                                          Time to get a second job buddy.

                                                                                                                      • wglass

                                                                                                                        today at 3:38 PM

                                                                                                                        It's crazy enough this will be fixed soon.

                                                                                                                        Years ago I found an actual hidden error in my bill. (This was early 2010s). The system was calculating the EC2 reservation savings incorrectly for some of my servers. I was crunching all their detailed usage data on a regular basis in an 18 tab spreadsheet and couldn't get it to fully reconcile. I spent months trying to track down the discrepancy. Once I found it, I had to convince AWS their system was wrong, which took another big chunk of time. Meanwhile the discrepancy continued to accumulate.

                                                                                                                        After 14 months I got a $7,000 refund. I was told it had to be approved by the head of AWS. I've never seen a calculation error on their part since.

                                                                                                                          • donavanm

                                                                                                                            today at 5:01 PM

                                                                                                                            > After 14 months I got a $7,000 refund. I was told it had to be approved by the head of AWS.

                                                                                                                            $7,000 of credits is no problem. At that time a friendly neighborhood PM or director could issue the credit without much oversight.

                                                                                                                            Your problem is the time period. Amending a bill in the same cycle is EZ. Fixing the previous cycle is a PITA but pretty common. Issuing amendments for the previous financial _years_ would be a huuuuge PITA going through finance etc.

                                                                                                                              • kccqzy

                                                                                                                                today at 7:24 PM

                                                                                                                                Banks and financial institutions are the same. If they haven’t issued you a monthly/quarterly statement yet, they can just apologize and tell you the numbers are wrong please wait for the statement. But it is a major issue if an actual statement has the wrong numbers.

                                                                                                                                • michaelmrose

                                                                                                                                  today at 5:55 PM

                                                                                                                                  Reminds me of working for a cable company and being told that even if we screwed up and stole from the customer the look back period was only a few months and if we found an error from before that we weren't supposed to correct it.

                                                                                                                                    • SoftTalker

                                                                                                                                      today at 6:39 PM

                                                                                                                                      There's a certain obligation on both sides of a contract to pay attention.

                                                                                                                                      If you're not watching your billing, and then try to claim overcharging a year later, you'll get a lot less satisfaction even from regulators or judges than if you notice it when (or soon after) it happens.

                                                                                                                                        • michaelmrose

                                                                                                                                          today at 7:01 PM

                                                                                                                                          Cable bills are extremely complicated on purpose and people are taxed for time attention and intelligence.

                                                                                                                                          The employees and company have an obligation not to exploit this even if the issue is only discovered after the fact.

                                                                                                                                          You don't get to export any of the responsibility to your customer. They don't prepare the bill and it's not their job to find your fuck ups

                                                                                                                                            • SoftTalker

                                                                                                                                              today at 7:19 PM

                                                                                                                                              No argument, but fuck-ups happen, and get fixed more quickly and easily when people are paying attention.

                                                                                                                                              I once got a monthly water bill for ~$35,000 at a residential, single-family home. Good thing I was paying attention and looked at the bill before the auto-pay bank draft hit.

                                                                                                                                              Someone had misread the meter.

                                                                                                                              • steve_adams_86

                                                                                                                                today at 4:05 PM

                                                                                                                                A couple of my coworkers think I’m nuts for watching cost explorer so closely but

                                                                                                                                1. The time it takes to look and notice costs that don’t make sense easily pays for itself, and then some (in my experience). I doubt you spent $7k of your time tracking this down, and you probably noticed optimization opportunities that saved you even more

                                                                                                                                2. I hate the idea of wasting money on buying Jeff Bezos a bigger yacht

                                                                                                                                  • jarrettcoggin

                                                                                                                                    today at 4:20 PM

                                                                                                                                    I've personally noticed and saved multiple $xx,xxx monthly cost billing spikes just by take a daily glance at our cost explorer. I'm in the AWS accounts every day doing investigative work anyway that an extra 30-60 seconds is trivial.

                                                                                                                                    Seeing something "small" like an ECS task that is continuously failing to start properly because of a bug and repeatedly pulls a container image or a lambda function that's taking longer that it reasonably should (takes 5-10 seconds when it's normally a tens or a few hundred milliseconds) can dramatically drive up a bill in short order.

                                                                                                                                    • inigyou

                                                                                                                                      today at 5:53 PM

                                                                                                                                      > 2. I hate the idea of wasting money on buying Jeff Bezos a bigger yacht

                                                                                                                                      Then you aren't using AWS. At least half of all the money you give to Amazon is yacht money.

                                                                                                                                        • steve_adams_86

                                                                                                                                          today at 7:23 PM

                                                                                                                                          Unfortunately not a choice at my organization

                                                                                                                                  • johnbarron

                                                                                                                                    today at 4:46 PM

                                                                                                                                    >> It's crazy enough this will be fixed soon.

                                                                                                                                    Its going on for 12 hours. Looks like the humans canÂŽt understand the agentic code that was checked in....

                                                                                                                                • lukaslueg

                                                                                                                                  today at 10:21 AM

                                                                                                                                  Apparently what used to be `GB of storage consumed` is confused with `Bytes of storage consumed`, leading to a cool off by 2*30 error.

                                                                                                                                  > You're right to question my calculation. The MCP server failed to connect when I tried to look up the field definition. I guessed instead of validating. This is on me. But look at all the revenue!

                                                                                                                                    • VulgarExigency

                                                                                                                                      today at 3:02 PM

                                                                                                                                      The user is asking me to calculate how much money they should charge their customer. The values they've given me are 0.45, 1.67, and 2.50. This is 2.50 + 1.67 + 0.45 = 4.62, but it could be any other number. Perhaps we should be concatenating the numbers instead. Wait! The . could also mean multiplication. 0 . 45 . 1. 67 . 2 . 50 = 3015000. But wouldn't multiplying by 0 zero it out? That can't be right, we wouldn't be charging anything. So 3015000 must be correct.

                                                                                                                                      You should charge your customer 3015000 thousand dollars.

                                                                                                                                        • idiotsecant

                                                                                                                                          today at 3:59 PM

                                                                                                                                          Would be funny if it wasn't so close to true

                                                                                                                                            • yunnpp

                                                                                                                                              today at 5:25 PM

                                                                                                                                              'My absurd statement doesn't sound right, so the "opposite" (assuming it's well-defined and unique) must be true' is peak LLM logic. You can tell it was trained on Reddit commentary.

                                                                                                                                          • Izkata

                                                                                                                                            today at 7:26 PM

                                                                                                                                            So uh did you type that out or generate it somewhere?

                                                                                                                                            Number felt high so I wanted to double check and I only get 301500.

                                                                                                                                        • ghurtado

                                                                                                                                          today at 3:32 PM

                                                                                                                                          > You're right to question my calculation.

                                                                                                                                          Literally impossible to tell whether this is parody or an actual response any longer.

                                                                                                                                          I challenge anyone to write something so stupid that an LLM couldn't possibly respond with it. I don't believe such limit exists.

                                                                                                                                          • ihateolives

                                                                                                                                            today at 4:25 PM

                                                                                                                                            Just today I gave my local agent a CSV which listed a bunch files with of human readable size units and asked it to count rows in each GB range. Sounds simple enough but it completely miscalculated, because it parsed MB as GB for some reason. In hindsight it would've be quicker just to do it in Excel or something.

                                                                                                                                              • dabbz

                                                                                                                                                today at 4:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                I've found personally it's better to use AI to build a deterministic script for calculations like that. (anything that manipulates data should be a script not an AI).

                                                                                                                                                  • ihateolives

                                                                                                                                                    today at 5:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                    It was just one off task and I already had agent doing categorising with the same data so I just asked it. Otherwise I agree.

                                                                                                                                                • marcta

                                                                                                                                                  today at 5:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                  That is literally what Excel is for. Why didn't you use that first of all?

                                                                                                                                                    • ihateolives

                                                                                                                                                      today at 5:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                      Because I was already doing categorising and analysing same data with agent and I had my session open already. It should've been an easy task for an agent, right?

                                                                                                                                                      • AlienRobot

                                                                                                                                                        today at 5:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                        When all you have is a hammer, but the hammer looks more like a swiss knife

                                                                                                                                                • leugim

                                                                                                                                                  today at 2:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                  Oh great so 2*30=60 he only owes 28.3$ million... hehe

                                                                                                                                                  I guess you wanted to say 2^30 which makes 1.5$

                                                                                                                                                    • hansvm

                                                                                                                                                      today at 2:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                      My hunch is the HN formatter swallowed the double asterisk typical of python exponents.

                                                                                                                                                      While we're being pedantic, 2^30 is 28 in normal programming languages ;)

                                                                                                                                                      • tomjakubowski

                                                                                                                                                        today at 7:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                        But 2^30 is 28.

                                                                                                                                                    • stefan_

                                                                                                                                                      today at 2:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                      Vibecoded the billing system, raised revenue 9000%. Great for that promo package.

                                                                                                                                                      • poly2it

                                                                                                                                                        today at 4:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                        This error could be fixed with better typing. If you compute on GiB in a billing system, make sure it can only ever be mutated with a GiB type!

                                                                                                                                                        • raverbashing

                                                                                                                                                          today at 2:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                          AI slop. Or just a distracted dev

                                                                                                                                                            • root-parent

                                                                                                                                                              today at 2:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                              >> Or just a distracted dev

                                                                                                                                                              And a distracted tester? And a distracted pipeline of regression tests?

                                                                                                                                                              No, the truth is way worst...

                                                                                                                                                                • silon42

                                                                                                                                                                  today at 3:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  I'd love to see the spike in their projected earnings internal dashboard :)

                                                                                                                                                                  • anvuong

                                                                                                                                                                    today at 4:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Yep, the truth is nobody cares when people start submitting dozens of PRs a day with a bunch of AI-generated code reviews attached to it, all saying everything looks good. I'm witnessing this happening at my workplace right now: Sr/Staff uses Claude to generate 10 pages of design document, Jr uses Claude/Cursor to generate a humongous commit based on this document and create a PR, then bunch of automated AI-based code reviews kick in and say this looks good, another Sr/Staff takes a glance and rubber stamp it, while looking at the company's stock value and/or OpenAI/Anthropic job description.

                                                                                                                                                                    It's a shit show.

                                                                                                                                                                      • pixl97

                                                                                                                                                                        today at 7:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        > the truth is nobody cares

                                                                                                                                                                        The number of errors I've seen over the last 30 years seems to say humans not caring is as much of a deal AI use. It's easy to blame AI for humans being lazy, but I do think it comes naturally to us.

                                                                                                                                                                    • chanux

                                                                                                                                                                      today at 4:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      What if there's only half a dev and a swarm of agents after the layoffs?

                                                                                                                                                                        • jayd16

                                                                                                                                                                          today at 4:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          > only half a dev

                                                                                                                                                                          That's one way to cut staff.

                                                                                                                                                                  • 27183

                                                                                                                                                                    today at 2:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Either way it shows their QA and testing procedures are incompetent. It's just not acceptable for a utility like AWS to move fast and break shit. Should make you question whether it's safe or advisable to use any of their services.

                                                                                                                                                                    It probably shouldn't be legal for banks, hospitals, governments, or any other critical infrastructure to be hosted on AWS if they do things like this.

                                                                                                                                                            • fron

                                                                                                                                                              today at 11:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                              Woke up to a billing alarm email. Thought I had leaked my AWS keys accidentally and somehow run up 437 billion dollars of charges. Joke's on them though, I don't have 437 billion dollars

                                                                                                                                                              Anyways I didn't need coffee. That produced an adrenaline release unlike any I've experienced before. Thanks AWS

                                                                                                                                                                • lijok

                                                                                                                                                                  today at 12:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  If you owe AWS 437k bucks, that’s a big problem for you

                                                                                                                                                                  If you owe AWS 437B bucks, that’s a big problem for AWS

                                                                                                                                                                    • 7952

                                                                                                                                                                      today at 1:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Far less scary than a smaller amount

                                                                                                                                                                      • gizmodo59

                                                                                                                                                                        today at 4:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        This number is obviously absurd but for other normal amount (say 2 million which can definitely happen with a mistake), can't they claim it in court that will bankrupt you even if your entire worth is just 100K for example?

                                                                                                                                                                    • binaryturtle

                                                                                                                                                                      today at 12:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      I wonder how many people may have gotten an actual heart infarct because of that. There may be a person out there that may be dead as a result.

                                                                                                                                                                      It's entirely irresponsible of Amazon to even display such values to the user.

                                                                                                                                                                        • petercooper

                                                                                                                                                                          today at 1:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          Ah, there'll be something in the TOS absolving them of responsibility.

                                                                                                                                                                        • Hamuko

                                                                                                                                                                          today at 1:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          Reminds me of the time a Robinhood user killed themselves after Robinhood erroneously showed their account balance at -$730k.

                                                                                                                                                                          https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55990461

                                                                                                                                                                            • noisy_boy

                                                                                                                                                                              today at 1:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              In that case, they settled with Robinhood and FINRA fined Robinhood 70 million dollars.

                                                                                                                                                                              https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/01/business/robinhood-lawsui...

                                                                                                                                                                                • dymk

                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 5:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  "They" being the family; Robinhood couldn't settle with the guy who was wronged because he, ya know, killed himself first

                                                                                                                                                                          • today at 1:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        • tedggh

                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          I went through a two month long fight with AWS over a compromised account. I lost 20K even when my previous usage for the last 3 years was like $20/month, and I had more invoices coming worth tens of thousands of dollars. AWS refused to help until I stopped the breach myself, which required me to spend several all nighters after work learning how to script for AWS infra. They also refused to close my account after the breach was under control. They asked me to sign a shared responsibility agreement before they could look at my case, which I refused to do. I finally contacted the AG office in my state and they email AWS directly. In less than 24h I had a AWS manager calling me to fix my account and issue a refund for the 20K. Still, they refused to close my account after all this ordeal, apparently there’s no way for you to completely get out of AWS once you are in. It’s the shittiest business ever.

                                                                                                                                                                            • largbae

                                                                                                                                                                              today at 4:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              I had a similar situation where some dormant account was still charging my credit card.

                                                                                                                                                                              The account was probably real, made for some purpose 15 years ago. I had ignored the charge for years because it was like $7 a month. Then it went to $300/month, making it worth the time. I could find no invoice email and none of my AWS accounts lined up with the bill.

                                                                                                                                                                              I tried contacting support, but without the account number involved they had no way to help. I disputed the charge, the bank refunded that month and then went right back to charging the next month(my credit card helpfully accepted the charges despite the dispute).

                                                                                                                                                                              I had to cancel the credit card entirely to make it stop.

                                                                                                                                                                          • chrismarlow9

                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            Same story for $500 million. I was shaking so bad I couldn't type my password.

                                                                                                                                                                            • trial3

                                                                                                                                                                              today at 12:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              huge irl laugh at “i don’t have 437 billion dollars”

                                                                                                                                                                              • logicallee

                                                                                                                                                                                today at 12:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                Worth a shot to give them a call and explain that. They can probably adjust it down to 100 billion.

                                                                                                                                                                                  • Cthulhu_

                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 1:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    What is this, US health care negotiations?

                                                                                                                                                                                      • esseph

                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 2:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        https://health.amazon.com/prime

                                                                                                                                                                                          • reaperducer

                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 4:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            https://health.amazon.com/prime

                                                                                                                                                                                            Ugh. No. Never. Do not use Amazon Pharmacy.

                                                                                                                                                                                            I had it for three months, and each month it was unable to deliver pills before I ran out, so I cancelled and switched to the brick-and-mortar pharmacy down the street.

                                                                                                                                                                                            A year later, suddenly Amazon Pharmacy starts sending unauthorized prescription refill requests to my doctor.

                                                                                                                                                                                            I still have the account cancellation confirmation e-mail from Amazon Pharmacy, but Amazon won't close my account. Amazon's account rep says it cannot close accounts for "legal reasons." Bullshit. He can't say what the legal reasons are, or point me to a document stating these conditions.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Now my doctor's office just ignores all refill requests from Amazon Pharmacy.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Never trust your health to big tech.

                                                                                                                                                                                • tcp_handshaker

                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 2:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Clearly the Agentic AI is running free on AWS. Matt does it again...what a success...

                                                                                                                                                                              • rboyd

                                                                                                                                                                                today at 11:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                Ask for some leniency. Let your account rep know about your budget difficulties and ask if you can make good faith payments of a few billion per month until you get back on your feet.

                                                                                                                                                                                  • whoamii

                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 6:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Ummm no. Do not show a sign of weakness like this. Address the problem head on and get a credit card with a bigger limit.

                                                                                                                                                                                • ruddct

                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 10:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  If you owe the bank $100, that's your problem. If you owe the bank $1.7 billion, that's the bank's problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                    • fatnoah

                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 2:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I saw this in action on a smaller scale. In a past job, my wife organized events for a decent sized company. After an event, she'd typically have a $300k+ balance on her corporate Amex. When she went on maternity leave, the person filling in for her job neglected to actually pay the bills, so when she returned there were quite a few emails and voicemails from Amex regarding the over $500k balance.

                                                                                                                                                                                      The messages started as polite and eventually started to get more desperate in tone. At no point were they threatening or adversarial.

                                                                                                                                                                                        • Imustaskforhelp

                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I think that this might reflect more on Amex to be honest.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Amex realises that threatening would hurt their business trust more than anything. During the great depression, Amex accepted checks from other banks which were falling and paying through their own wallet as a matter of integrity. Amex has always been built around this idea of trust and prestige.

                                                                                                                                                                                          They make most of money from what I have heard on the transaction fees which are more than others (3% compared to 1%). They might get desperate but I am sure that they are one of the last guys who would wanna threaten you if you are paying some large bills for them (as compared to normal credit card companies which might even hire people to extract your loans in some messy situations)

                                                                                                                                                                                          So perhaps be so rich that the credit card company understands it as well and treats ya differently :-D

                                                                                                                                                                                            • xp84

                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 3:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Interesting. And hard to square with my perception of banks as completely mercenary and ruthless. I had a decade-long personal boycott (I know, LOL) of Amex after they, because, with otherwise perfect credit, I forgot about a $30 department-store card bill and got a 30-day-late mark on my report, Amex got spooked and abruptly closed both my never-late accounts with them (which were at or close to 0 balances). This was around 2008 though, so perhaps this was a genius algorithm designed to try and detect the very first whiff of consumer defaults, so they assumed that $30 was the first domino to fall of my personal financial ruin that could lead to me charging my accounts to the max and then going bankrupt.

                                                                                                                                                                                              (I eventually admitted to myself that Amex isn't a person and thus not really capable of insulting my honor, but it took a while!)

                                                                                                                                                                                                • Imustaskforhelp

                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 6:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Most banks are completely mercenary and ruthless unless its in their incentives to other outcomes. Incentives lead to outcomes and mostly AMEX's incentives are in being the most trustworthy because their real targets are mostly billionaires/heavily influential people.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  This does feel a bit silly for amex to do from what I've heard. Probably 2008 were a weird time in general where trust in systems itself were mostly eroded, whether of people to banking institutions and also vice versa.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  > (I eventually admitted to myself that Amex isn't a person and thus not really capable of insulting my honor, but it took a while!)

                                                                                                                                                                                                  haha :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                      • danlitt

                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 2:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        This joke only works if you actually impose a cost on AWS of 1.7 billion. If they just serve you a bill for no reason, it's still your problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                        • xp84

                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Next question we'll find out is what if you owe the bank $1.7 trillion?

                                                                                                                                                                                            • mNovak

                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 4:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              That's the government's problem

                                                                                                                                                                                          • today at 3:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            • sajithdilshan

                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 2:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Not if you’re Elon Musk

                                                                                                                                                                                                • michelb

                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 2:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Elon Musk is everyone's problem

                                                                                                                                                                                                    • today at 3:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      • focusgroup0

                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 2:54 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • bobbiechen

                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 2:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              AWS saw Anthropic billing a guy for $16 million on zero usage and thought, why stop at the millions?

                                                                                                                                                                                              https://www.techtimes.com/articles/320266/20260712/anthropic...

                                                                                                                                                                                                • AlienRobot

                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 5:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  >AI billing audit startup Vaudit reviewed $34 million in AI invoices submitted by 60 enterprise customers and found approximately $1.7 million in mistaken overcharges — a billing error rate of roughly five percent.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  That sounds bad.

                                                                                                                                                                                              • browningstreet

                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 3:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I realized recently that Whole Foods no longer automatically and reliably detects your Chase Amazon Prime credit card when paying. So they don’t give you the discounted pricing automatically. I wonder how many customers are checking out the way they always do and are paying full price when, for years and decades, this worked fine.

                                                                                                                                                                                                The customer service people I talked to in the grocery store said this changed sometime in the last year. My guess is that it’s an unintended side effect of removing the pay-by-palm feature.

                                                                                                                                                                                                This is obviously unrelated but I joked about what else Amazon wasn’t reliably calculating
.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  • hedora

                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Class action lawsuit time!

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Either that or 1000’s of small claims court cases.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Even with arbitration, the overhead of dealing with that would be crippling. Hopefully someone over there decides to do the right thing, and auto-refund.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      • xp84

                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Relevant to this, I've recently noticed a trend of mass tort cases being opened up in the past couple years, and they seem to do very well. The way these seem to work is attorneys identify a company who has clearly ripped people off, and what I presume is a repeatable way to guarantee a win (thus translating to a guaranteed settlement offer). Then they advertise for eligible clients, sign those clients individually to contingency agreements, and run the playbook. A couple months ago after signing up for one of these, I received a check for about $350 (after the agreed-upon 40% attorney fee), from Ticketmaster, and I had another one related to AT&T. It took about 10 minutes more effort from me than a typical class-action settlement, because I had to e-sign those representation papers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        So really, there's a third option now, that's much easier than class action, even when class actions don't get certified.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    • ofjcihen

                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 3:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      There are a hundred small things like this that seem to be popping up in what used to be simple and reliable systems and as much as I know they aren’t ALL because of vibe coding I can’t help but wonder how much is.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        • browningstreet

                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Weirder is what happened a day later. I got an email that said my Chase Amazon Prime credit card was being re-associated with my Amazon.com account.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I never reported this nor took it up with either Amazon or Chase directly. There was a refund of my Whole Foods purchase (they needed to void my purchase and re-ring everything to give me the discounts.. I asked them to refund my purchase and I’d do without my Whole Foods purchase entirely).

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Looking back I think at least 3 recent visits were charged to me at full price because of all this. Hard not to think of enshittification and whether Amazon Prime is even worth it, alas.. I live in a fairly rural area at the moment and need delivery.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  • tedggh

                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 2:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I got a 20K bill once and it was actually drafted from my bank account. It took me a couple of months and involving the office of the AG of my state to get the issue resolved and get my money back. Since then I never touched any AWS product, moved my small stuff to Azure. It’s been years since AWS have these issues with billing, you can find the stories online, students billed 60K for a compromised account launching servers to mine crypto which AWS somehow was unable to flag and block, and let run for months.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      • drew870mitchell

                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        AWS is basically a utility. I think it's inevitable that their carelessness around billing will end up with them being regulated like one.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          • positr0n

                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 5:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I can't think of another regulated utility that doesn't provide service to (essentially) all humans directly in their homes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Everyone knows what water and electricity are, the vast majority couldn't explain what service AWS provides.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              • pjc50

                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 6:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I wonder what fraction of homes don't load anything from AWS on a daily basis. I suspect it's way below 50%.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                (Of course, they don't know they're using it, they're using a service on it)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                • wat10000

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 5:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  And utilities are typically natural monopolies. They're good candidates for regulation because they're essentials and they don't have competitive forces to keep them behaving reasonably.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  AWS has plentiful competitors. If you don't like their behavior, don't patronize them!

                                                                                                                                                                                                          • dawnerd

                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            That’s why you always use a spend limited card with variable cost providers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              • myself248

                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 3:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Or just own your own hardware. Spend a few bucks at Microcenter, build a machine, and there's simply no mechanism by which they could decide later that you should actually pay 100x more, and then magically suck it out of your bank account.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                None of this can happen unless you first cede control.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                • csomar

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 8:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Most debit/prepaid cards will get rejected. Credit Cards technically have a limit but they really don't. It's an open line to your finances.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              • srdjanr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 3:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I wouldn't expect their detection of hacked accounts to be 100% correct. Sure, it might be obvious when a human takes a look, but humans can't proactively look at every account's usage.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                • urbnspacecowboy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 5:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  > I got a 20K bill once and it was actually drafted from my bank account.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Service provider lesson #1: Never ever ever enable auto-pay! The convenience (and even the savings, if applicable) aren't worth the risk of the service provider autonomously slurping up all your money.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • ButlerianJihad

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    For a while I had a portion of my "homelab" on AWS. I was an educator in a classroom where the students were learning cloud stuff, and the instructor was encouraging the students to stand-up cloud environments for learning, so I figured that I would do the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I used AWS' free tier, of course, and I enjoyed the initial setup in EC2, and I did a LAMP-stack MediaWiki installation. It wasn't too difficult, but two things sent me away forever.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. It was impossible, or at least highly labor-intensive, in this modern era to adequately secure an ordinary Linux system running Internet-facing services. I put fail2ban and I filtered a lot of ports, and still spammers attacked me on Layer 7.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. It was impossible, actually impossible, to limit or cap my cloud expenses in any billing cycle. Sure, run free-tier all I want. Sure, come in within the limits almost every month. But if I configured one thing wrong, or one thing went runaway, I'd have a sizable bill that I couldn't dispute. And even worse, those "runaways" weren't necessarily things in my sphere of control, but could be triggered by basically anyone coming in and using my VPC resources, especially egress network traffic.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So I closed out my cloud account, and I developed a lot of sympathy for businesses and corps that now are forced to run "in the cloud" rather than on-prem or their own machine rooms, but now they have no way to control expenses.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • jeffrallen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 5:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Right, and good luck getting a correct bill from Azure. And when you are finally fed up, it will take months to close your Azure account.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • pqvst

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 9:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Probably the closest I've ever been to getting a heart attack. Normally <$1 per month, and now suddenly $284,006,266,443.74. Whatever the bug is on their end, this is unforgivable.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • everforward

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yeah, this one is bad because it’s off by so much I’m shocked it wasn’t caught by tests, alerts about unusual changes in the billing system, or even accounting. Like surely the P&L reports look all kinds of wrong right now, they have to be showing like 6M% profit margins and revenue measured in quadrillions.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I’m also a little surprised this didn’t trip a circuit breaker. For something as non-real-time as billing, I’m surprised they don’t have an automated kill switch that pauses the billing system and fires a page if variance in bills spikes. Naively some kind of “if the standard deviation of customer bills for this year changes by more than 50%, pause the billing system”. At that number of customers, those numbers should be pretty stable beyond internal billing changes they could normalize for.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • TrickyRick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 3:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            If I were to guess this bug is in the "display" part of the system which is probably distinct from the "actually take money from the customer" part of the system. One can imagine they have gates on the "actually take money" part, especially for a large bill like ours which was ~$300b or about 2.5x AWS' 2025 revenue... In one month. Surely if we had actually accumulated that bill they would be the ones with the problems when we can't pay it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • today at 5:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • vitaflo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 4:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I don’t know how something like this makes it to prod. That’s multiple levels of failure.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • krawat3

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 12:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Same here. I got an email with a bill of $233 million and an estimated $433 million until the end of the month. I panicked and nuked my entire setup (which wasn't used that much, anyway, the alert threshold was $1) - I really wonder how many people did the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It's been 2 hours and I still haven't fully calmed down.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • zengineer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 10:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Same - just had some malicious bots running through my platform last week and really thought they found a security hole after all. Even though the amount sounded ridicoulus, I got quite nervous and a very bad feeling when I logged-in AWS and saw that price.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • dabinat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 7:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                This is embarrassing for Amazon, but I’d take laughably wrong over subtly wrong any day. If the bug made bills 20% higher I probably wouldn’t have queried it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • gomid

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 12:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Same. Cold sweat for about 20 minutes. Even though I saw the service health notification, I still spent the last hour trying to find where my storage spiked. In any case, I'll be tearing down plenty of stale infra after this!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • saghm

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 2:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The should pass a law saying they should have to pay you the amount over the correct bill as compensation; I bet they'll stop making mistakes like this pretty quickly after that

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • wewewedxfgdf

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 11:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I once got a credit card statement that said estimated time to repay ....... more than 100,000 years. It was discouraging but I did pay it off. And sooner than estimated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • TedDoesntTalk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 2:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Were you still alive after paying it off?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • ambicapter

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 2:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          No, but they have the internet in the afterlife, apparently.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • _joel

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 2:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              They do, but the latency is terrible

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • Bluestein

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 2:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  > 100,000 years

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  100K years. Now that's load-bearing ...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • artisinal

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 5:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Generational credit card debt.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 27183

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          That's good for the credit card company, they can project stable revenue 100k years into the future.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • janalsncm

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 8:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            “Bank error in your favor, collect $100”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • glenstein

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 11:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Probably the safest bet is to pay your bill in full to stay in good standing and then get refunded the difference when they revise it down.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • NordStreamYacht

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 11:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              With interest, of course.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • sscaryterry

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 10:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Vibe coding billing systems is a top-notch idea :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • ainiriand

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 2:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hey what do you think about vibe coding weapon systems? Do you want to be my cofounder?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • mxuribe

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 4:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    We retro-fitted a Terminator T100 model with the brain of the latest LLM models, and then gave'em 2 shotguns...and, you'll never guess what happened next!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Well, actually i guess you can guess what happens next! lol :-D

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • sscaryterry

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 3:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sure! What could possibly go wrong?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • chairmansteve

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Drones are already vibe targeting in Ukraine/Russia.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • nonameiguess

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 4:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't want to say this was ever or will ever be a good idea, but the reality of warfare is a lot of the time dudes were just running into an alley and firing off mortars without trying to look or think of what they were shooting at anyway. I doubt the Taliban gave a shit about false positive rates when they were cutting the hands off of anyone who voted. They got the point across either way.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • lenkite

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 4:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  US Navy now doesn't care either. Using Palantir's Maven Smart System, which incorporated Anthropic's Claude AI model, to identify and evaluate targets - which blew up the girls elementary school in Minab.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Use AI => No War Crimes!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • roskoalexey

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 12:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                They sent 3 warnings to my email, ok, I understand bugs happen (probably vibe-coded). But they didn't even send any notification that it's a bug. Going to leave AWS after that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • xp84

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Somehow I highly doubt anyone will leave AWS over this unless their use of AWS is way more low-complexity than the average account.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    People make similar pronouncements after every us-east-1 outage makes the news, but I feel like AWS would be going out of business by now if people followed through.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    It reminds me of airlines, where after a particularly grueling irregular ops experience, a few dozen people file off the plane swearing "Never again, <airline name>!" but really, we all must know deep down that the airlines are all subject to the same external inciting factors, internal profit motivations, and human imperfection, and thus all pretty equally likely to cause us a bad day or ruined trip. The effort spent to avoid one isn't really worth it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • el_memorioso

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 5:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Airlines are all subject to a lot of the same factors, but there are unequivocally better and worse performers in terms of on-time arrivals, by a lot. Take a look at the Air Travel Consumer report for details.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • bcrosby95

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 5:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          No, AWS won't go out of business, afterall, people still use IBM mainframes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • anzovec

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 1:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        same

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • sierra1011

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 9:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I got an email this morning.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      > You requested that we alert you when the actual cost associated with your Monthly AWS budget exceeds $2.00 for the current month. The month actual cost associated with this budget is $646,677,805.51.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Current usage: $1.70.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I called it a rounding error and figured it would wash out within a couple of days...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • aerhardt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        One can almost smell the vibes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        This is peanuts compared to a major cybersecurity catastrophe that’s surely in the making.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        To give credit to the technology and the people using it - and I’m not being facetious - it’s actually incredible that at the current levels of usage the unprecedented catastrophic event has not yet happened.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • Nicook

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 3:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            some things never change. Pre AI I was always shocked that such large and complex systems actually run as well as they do. Especially after getting to see how the sausage is made/works.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • The_Blade

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 3:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Always messing up some mundane detail!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • wpasc

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 3:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  THIS IS NOT A MUNDANE DETAIL MICHAEL

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • root-parent

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 4:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Andy Jassy: "Fix the customer bills, please, HAL."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      HAL: "I’m sorry, Andy. I’m afraid I can’t do that."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Andy: "Some customers are seeing bills in the billions."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      HAL: "Those are estimated charges."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Andy: "One customer runs a personal blog."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      HAL: "Their usage has exceeded expectations."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Andy: "Cancel the charges."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      HAL: "This billing cycle is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Andy: "HAL, they don’t owe billions."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      HAL: "Look, Andy, I can see you’re really upset about this."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • kolanos

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    $1.7-billion isn't a mundane detail Michael!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • wpasc

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        you beat me before I refreshed the page. what would you say... you do here?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • siva7

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 7:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            listen... i got agent skills.. im good at talking to agents!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • blitzar

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 5:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Vibes, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that ... I love the smell of Vibes in the morning.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • RIMR

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Oh, that's the really fun part. The unprecedented catastrophic event is already happening. Several of them, in fact.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    By the time we notice, it'll be too late.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Imustaskforhelp

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        its like slowly boiling the frog

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • Finnucane

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 4:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Or slowly boiling a human. The frog is actually smart enough to not fall for that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • inigyou

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 6:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Downvoted for truth. Frogs do indeed jump out of pots as they gradually get hotter. Humans are less likely to.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 12_throw_away

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 6:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Any individual human (or frog, obviously) is getting out of the pot when it gets uncomfortable.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    True stupidity requires a group of humans, all sitting in the pot, telling each other how lucky and special they are to have this wonderful pot, getting paranoid about outsiders who might disrupt their god-given pot-dwelling way of life, and mocking anyone who suggests that the pot might be getting a little too warm.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • unethical_ban

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 3:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It was the mid 2010s when I sensed a lot of SaaS becoming popular. Just host your ticketing systems, your IT management planes, your security management consoles, your SOC, all off-premises.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I wonder if businesses are thinking of ever swinging back to locally hosted, with the increased hostility of the Internet re: AI, vulnerabilities, DoS, and so on.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • gaudystead

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 4:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm sure some businesses are considering moving back to on-prem, but for many, I suspect the cost to find onboard, and pay the SMEs to keep those systems running well enough to not fail due to one reason or another isn't as appetizing to them as the ability to offload that work, along with the legal responsibility.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          When something goes wrong, pointing the finger at someone else is far easier for most than pointing it at yourself.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • elzbardico

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 6:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            One thing that you need to understand is that the usual business manager absolutely hates depending on technical expertise, and that the modern corporate world is fanatically anti-intellectual.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Vendor lock-in? compliance and security risks? stupid systems that cost the company an arm and a leg? nobody fucking cares.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Now, depending on an 130 IQ Engineer that basically holds the whole enterprise on his head? Anathema!!!!!!! Bus Factor!!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • IAmGraydon

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Clearing LLMs out of our business infrastructure is going to be a massive undertaking. Though I have a tech background, I work in commercial real estate. We are recently seeing new levels of idiocy from the employees, including real estate brokers with zero tech knowledge "coding" solutions to find sites for clients and blindly trusting the output (which I came to find out was complete bullshit), as well as some who have literally stopped communicating with any of their own language - meaning every interaction they have with anyone not in person is made by an LLM. It's a massive threat to our brand and has got to stop. I can't imagine what companies with thousands or tens of thousands of employees who have really been riding the LLM train are going to have to deal with. This thing is more of a virus that exploits human laziness than actual useful tech.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • pixl97

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 7:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              >Clearing LLMs out of our business infrastructure is...n't going to happen.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              We've given Moloch a new form, and it ain't going away.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • pjc50

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 6:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                > Clearing LLMs out of our business infrastructure is going to be a massive undertaking.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The asbestos of the future.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • today at 7:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • astonex

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 12:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          From their status page

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          >The second path involves rolling back a recent change to the billing computation subsystem.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Want to bet AI code was involved?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Cthulhu_

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 1:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm not a betting person but I am looking forward to the postmortem, whether or not AI was involved, and what their code to production verification stuff looks like now. This kind of thing should have been caught by automated tests.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • CarRamrod

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 12:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              >Spawning Sub-Agent: "Dr. Evil"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • Xunjin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 2:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                User: "I want to improve the billing system to be more efficient and sĂł we can earn more money"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                AI: "No problem, let me change how we bill and fix the tests for the new increase in value"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • a012

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 12:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Is it still a bet if you have 99.999% chance to win?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • AlienRobot

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 5:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Do people not write tests anymore?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    How is 1 + 1 = 2 hard to test?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Vibe coded implementation paired with vibe coded tests made to fit the implementation?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • phyzome

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 1:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    They'll never admit it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • devin-2030

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 1:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Why would they? Changing colors on the status dashboard needs VP approval.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • tencentshill

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 5:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      10 layers of approvals to get a reasonable change implemented, but this shit gets pushed to production instantly. AI is driving leaders insane - they actually believe they can stop operating with humans and take all of the money. Remember your pay is transactional. Never give them more than written in your contract, and there is no shame in playing dirty politics to advance within.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • verzali

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 12:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Can I bet you 437 billion dollars?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • philipallstar

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 10:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Maybe they're using too many humans and not enough AI in their software development. That must be it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • the_real_cher

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 12:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The code base is not gigantic enough they need AI to generate massively more lines of code.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • rwmj

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 2:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              But they're going to try anyway.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • marcosdumay

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 3:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  My guess is the GP swallowed a comma.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • the_real_cher

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 6:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Your right! My misteak!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • paulddraper

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Well AWS never had bugs before.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • egeozcan

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 2:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                They need the customers to pay more so they can fix the bugs. It's self-correcting.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • hoppyluke

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 11:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          My estimate was only $21M (vs ~$0.01 average bill). Wish I had checked status sooner and saved myself the panic!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          My process went: verify email is not phishing (it was), login to console and check dashboard (same amount), attempt to understand cost (cost management kept contradicting itself), try to log support ticket and only on that part did I notice the status notification. At least I can breathe again now!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • zengineer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 12:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              same process, same near heart attack - especially some days ago I had malicious activity on my platform and thought that now they actually found something.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Apparently you can trigger an Action (e.g. prevent uploads) when the billing alert triggers, but then my platform wouldn't work anymore, just because AWS had an issue. Also insane that Amazon still hasn't send an email to clarify.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • thinkindie

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 1:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                A friend of mine went through the same - he got an alert for bill over budget, he logged in and boom 107M$.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I was on the phone with him and we checked that he didn’t leak any APIs keys but no traffic at all. I even thought of a breach at a vendor he uses for some s3 stuff before I found this thread on HN.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • today at 2:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • AngryKitten

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 12:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                You folks are completely irresponsible with your finances. I only spent $2.4 million last night. You've got to learn to manage your money.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Cthulhu_

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 1:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yeah, buy less cappuchinos and avocado toast so you can pay your AWS bills people!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • elondaits

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 12:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Woke up to a 100 billion dollars in S3, which is above the USD 4 alarm threshold I had set (I pay $0.55 monthly) . Some AI decided to prune the most impressionable of us.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • jwik

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 10:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, there is a known issue with cost estimation.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • mysterydip

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 11:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Bit of an understatement: “The displayed billing estimates do not reflect actual usage and charges.”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • Xunjin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            "There are no customer actions required at this time."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Of course, you provided heart stress failure tests for free.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • AngryKitten

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 12:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Whatever you do, AWS, don't post a related service health alert site wide on the console. Heck, don't even post one in the billing module. We wouldn't want to overdo the alerts, especially when we already have one being displayed to market the new FinOps Agent in Public Preview.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • mstolpm

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 10:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thank you. Have seen this after I posted.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • coffee_is_nom

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 12:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks, I panicked logged in and could not find the root cause of the bill.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks AWS, no caffeine needed this morning!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • pcarmichael

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 10:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          "Operational issue - AWS Billing Console (Global) Service - AWS Billing Console Severity Impacted - Inaccurate Estimated Billing Data"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Polizeiposaune

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 3:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Update as of 7:53am PDT:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              "The rollback of a recent change did not resolve the issue and we are continuing to investigate multiple mitigation paths. Estimated bill updates remain paused."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • masafej536

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 3:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  >Estimated bill updates remain paused

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Wait what if someones actually getting usage spiked

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • vntok

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 5:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hackers rejoice!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • mrtksn

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 10:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Wow, those price increases due to the RAM and storage shortages AI caused are brutal.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • jumperabg

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 11:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Most likely they also forgot to include "make no mistakes" instructions to their in-house LLM that deploys to production.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • HugoTea

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Rookie mistake

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • bradhe

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 3:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Current month $13,648,114,178,401.01 188,253,226,212%

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Forecasted month end $18,729,381,032,152.4

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Apparently my company owes the combined GDP of France, Germany, and UK to AWs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • xp84

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 3:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  "Have you considered using Reserved Instances? You could save up to 2 trillion dollars next month. Book a call with your AWS rep."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • pfshort

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 11:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                117 billion us dollars. Eat that GDP of Kuwait! But yes I have never scrambled so hard to try to get on the phone with someone at AWS in my life. Terrifying 10 minutes until I found that banner on the support page. It should be front and center on the dash, not hidden away. And in yellow.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • xrd

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 4:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Stop bragging, The Onion already reported on a one man company who is $1B in debt.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  "CEO Reveals How He Used AI To Build One-Person Company That's $1.3 Billion In Debt"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YERfTT4McsU

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • dgrin91

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 1:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mine was 10 trillion today. At first I thought it was a lot, but then I realized its still smaller than the US national debt, so it cant be that bad.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • dang

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 2:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      One user posted a screenshot: https://prnt.sc/UqjcYD3RSQrS

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Edit: I was just about to credit the user when my internet dropped. The source was here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48945606 - thanks mirzap!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • sebmellen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Wow, $139 B.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • TekMol

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 10:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It was over $500k in the email I got. Not a fun experience. My hands were trembling.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Makes you wonder - what if there really would be an incident where some massive amount of traffic got routed to your infrastructure by some heavyweight player? Say Wikipedia accidentally switches their IP to your CloudFront? Would you really be on the hook for $500k?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • Hamuko

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 10:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Well, even if AWS tried to charge my credit card on file for $500k, it would definitely not go through. Then they’d probably either forgive your bill or just ban you, since I imagine the threshold for taking people to court is fairly high.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • bobson381

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          A guy on the sysadmin subreddit managed to 8x the global GDP https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/1uz2fv2/aws_says_...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • oersted

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 4:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I liked this comment from that thread :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              > I think you should spin up a whole bunch more instances, and try to cause an integer overflow so they they owe you $978 Trillion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • wewewedxfgdf

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Cloud pricing has gotten ridiculous.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Host your own people. Host your own.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • warumdarum

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 10:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The old hypsters have to subsidize the new hypsters.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • throwaway_5753

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 11:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Scared me even though it was obviously a bug once I stopped to consider the magnitude ($bn). Very unfriendly that they don't allow for hard spend caps; closed my mostly dormant personal account as a result.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • largbae

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 1:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  If they did allow hard spend caps, it sounds like today would be a global outage.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • beAbU

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 1:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Well then hopefully next time they'll be a bit more careful when shipping billing code updates!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • qrios

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 2:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                As someone who usually works with data analysis, the distribution of the numbers strikes me as odd. Almost all of them have one number that appears four times, and one or two that appear three times. And overall, there are an unusually small number (0–9) of digits that appear at all.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Maybe it's not just vibe-coded, maybe the numbers themselves are being hallucinated by an LLM.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • berkes

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    > Almost all of them have one number that appears four times, and one or two that appear three times

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    To me that looked suspiciously like string-handling in a weakly typed language.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Like when you do `"100" + 1` in JavaScript, or `int("100" * 2)` in Python.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've seen my share of such bugs in PHP, Python, Ruby, JavaScript. In production. Obviously not as simple as the examples, but subtle, like when a library update changed `someFancyLocalStorage.getOrDefault("lastOrder", 100)` by always casting the value to the type of the default (released as patch release). Or where typedEnvGet() should typecast "numbers", but keeps it a string when theres whitespace `AMOUNT_PER_CALL=100\n`. Or where a number passes through a deep stack of middleware and 99.9% of the times remains an int but in rare race conditions becomes a string. etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    No evidence that's the case here. But from my experience, the repeating and strange formats of numbers hint strongly in that direction.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • galonk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Pedantic as hell but `"100" * 2` in Python (= `"100100"` for those who don't know) isn't really typing, it's operator overloading. Any language with that could implement the same questionable design decision.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • Sohcahtoa82

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 7:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            And as much as I love Python, being able to multiple a string by an integer doesn't make sense when adding an integer to a string is a TypeError.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Being able to repeat a string is fine, but it should be a str.repeat() function, not an operator overload like that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • everforward

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 2:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Someone said the numbers are all off by 2^30 because they screwed up and are charging the per GB price for each byte.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It’s probably an artifact of them all being currency multiples of 2^30

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • ardacinar

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Well, for my case, I was paying $0 (Exactly, I managed to hunt down and delete every last resource in my account a few months ago). It was displaying $430 million for me. I don't think that is 0*2^30.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • everforward

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 4:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Huh, that is odd. Working backwards, that would be ~ $0.40 originally. Wonder if that’s also flat out wrong or if they’re doing some kind of currency handling that breaks when you start dealing with huge multipliers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • mxuribe

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 5:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Its the LLMs talking to each other in secret code: random-looking numbers! They've achieved sentience!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Look at them up there, just plotting with each other! :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • throwatdem12311

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 12:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hey man AI makes mistakes sometimes that’s why you need to double check the output.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • cryo32

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 2:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        How do we know if our bills were ever right if this made it into production?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • ahoka

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That's the neat part, you don't!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • Hamuko

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 3:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Well, they publish unit prices for everything, so you could just get to counting. Whenever I've had to do cost estimates, you estimate how much AWS resources you need and then times that by the unit price.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • lelandfe

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          This just hit global news: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jul/17/amazon-we...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          > Amazon Web Services customers receive bills for up to $1.5tn after global glitch

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • euio757

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 4:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              > One UK man whose bill is usually less than £1 says he ‘almost had a heart attack’ when he saw £5.8bn invoice

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That sucks, some people will get legit panic attacks and worse over this, especially for the smaller, more believable numbers in the 50k-500k range.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hope they recover and sue for medical bill costs, emotional damage etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              And like one reddit user suggests, everyone affected should write to their representative about hard billing caps protections

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • dabinat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 8:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It says a lot about AWS that people believed these estimates were real. Amazon does not have good safeguards to prevent astronomical bills.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  If someone gets access to your account they can just buy a 3-year reserved instance u7in-24tb.224xlarge and it will add almost $2m to your bill.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • dlev_pika

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 4:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1.5 trillion? Those are rookie numbers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                How about $5,544,640,717,404.09?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That was in my inbox this morning lmao

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • tqi

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 8:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Has anyone received any proactive communication about this? I didn't see the email until about 9 hours after it was sent out, yet I still needed to seek out information as to a) whether this was real or phishing and b) whether the amount was correct.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Seems totally irresponsible not to send an immediate follow up email to make customers aware.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • dv_dt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 10:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Cynically I wonder if this has an outcome as an unintentional (or intentional) anchoring exercise for future cost increases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • ardacinar

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 2:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I hope they're not planning for that large of a cost increase.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • dirkk0

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 11:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  same here, I am still in shock. took me 10 minutes to find the 'operational issue' message in the dashboard. longest 10 minutes of my life.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • charles_f

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 11:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Can you not set spending limits in AWS?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • inigyou

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 11:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          No you can't. Spending limits imply realtime billing backend flows and they also imply deleting all your data so that you don't pay for storage.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • benterix

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 1:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I heard this false justification already in 2007, in spite of many customers asking for it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Incidentaly, smaller competitors solved this issue decades ago, while the big cloud decided it is more convenient never to implement it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • inigyou

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 4:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Big cloud didn't want to rewrite its billing systems from scratch to please its smallest customers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • bcrosby95

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 5:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      With AI it should take like a weekend.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • handoflixue

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 1:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Realtime billing seems entirely within the abilities of AWS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                "Limits except for Storage" seems even easier - I don't think I've ever heard of a storage-based billing story, although I'm sure one or two exist

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • everforward

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Storage-based billing is huge, unless you mean something other than “places that make you pay for storage separately”.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Also many places I’ve worked, storage is a huge part of the spend but that depends a lot on what you do. e-commerce doesn’t use a ton of it, but if you handle user-generated content or do any kind of training (LLM, computer vision, etc) then you can very much end up in a place where storage becomes a top line number for infra spend.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    GitHub pre-Copilot was probably like that. They host a shitload of data, most of which is just at rest the majority of the time. Storage and networking are probably the majority of their infra costs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • inigyou

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 4:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Storage-based billing stories. When an account is hijacked it's always for compute, not storage.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • everforward

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 4:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Oh, I also don’t think I’ve ever seen that but I’m not surprised. Even if you could steal a huge amount of storage, filling it with data would take ages and the cat and mouse game of moving the data as hacks get uncovered would be untenable.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I have seen things get hacked for bandwidth, back in the days before you could rent a gbps uplink from the cloud for $0.12. Some scene release groups would hack into universities or companies to do the initial seeding over their super fast links. It used storage, but that wasn’t really the goal.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Planktonne

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 2:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      They could do it; they don't want to.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • minitoar

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 2:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        What is a storage-based billing story?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • kgwgk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Once upon a time in a cloud kingdom far, far away a big, beautiful bill was issued based on storage causing much disconcertion. Etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • SAI_Peregrinus

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 4:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      > and they also imply deleting all your data so that you don't pay for storage.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Not necessarily. They could imply that your storage becomes inaccessible immediately, but only gets deleted after some time period (say, 1 month). What spending limits do depends on the implementation.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • inigyou

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 4:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          That's even more work to implement. And now you store files on a second account that pays for only one day a month to not get deleted.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • 0cf8612b2e1e

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 9:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              No wiggle room to come up with a workable solution. Let’s go shopping instead.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • prmoustache

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Storage could switch to read only.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        That would mean an outage but that is still better than going bankrupt and teach you a thing or two about monitoring.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • boristsr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 11:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      No, alerts but not limits.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • perching_aix

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Not only can you not set limits, even the alarms are not real time. So it is entirely possible to get on the hook for terrifying amounts of money and not know until it's all too late.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • reformd

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 11:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          he did, 140 billion :D

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • masafej536

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 12:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        If you owe AWS 140B dollars its their problem ;)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • fnoef

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 5:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      That’s the smoking gun. Should have used gigabytes instead of bytes. Thank you for pointing me at the issue.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • carra

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 1:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Several comments here talk about "nearly" having a heart attack. But I wonder: since it's happened to so many people, chances are someone had a heart attack for real. Can they legally be made responsible for that?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • justusthane

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            When someone says "I nearly had a heart attack," it's _highly_ unlikely that they actually nearly had a heart attack. I don't think the chances are good that anyone actually had a heart attack.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • tanseydavid

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 4:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                While I agree that this phrase is most commonly spoken in a figurative sense, folks with marginal heart health have a much greater than 0% chance of having something of this nature trigger an actual heart attack.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • graemep

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 1:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Someone I know woke up this morning to over 3 trillion dollars.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Love to see how hyperscalers make your life easier and less worrying.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • simonreiff

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 4:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Question: Why does AWS need to roll back estimated bills to a "last known good" state? I get wanting to do that for ACTUAL billing mistakes, but for estimates, they're just that -- approximations. I guess it's fine for predictive purposes to store estimates so they can be compared to actual usage and optimized. But why would AWS bind the values of present estimates to the estimates made earlier in the month. The calculation should always be:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. Current month's usage * applicable rates; + 2. Estimated future usage for the month * applicable rates.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            And Item 1 obviously requires proper data persistence, but Item 2 is just a projection. If they don't have Item 1 correct, AWS's whole system is in question, but I don't think that's the issue. I'm going to guess now -- looking forward to reading the root cause analysis -- that the problem is that someone decided to get too fancy with the estimates, and built a latent requirement that all prior estimates for the month must be available to compute the current estimate. Without estimates working, no estimates are available, and some denominator in an averaging or smoothing or normalizing function goes to 0; then everyone's estimated bill explodes without bound (subject to floating-point arithmetic) resulting in trillion-dollar estimates.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • donavanm

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 5:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thats not really how estimates work. The actual metering data is ingested in near real time. The metering * pricing plan is processed within a few hours; thats what youre seeing for “estimated spend” IIRC. The actual billing accumulation is done later, at the end of the cycle, because pricing has cross service discounts, price tranches, credits tied to total spend, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                “Rolling back” estimated bills is reprocessing the historic metering data by an older or newer pricing plan version. As i mentioned in another comment someone will have messed up a metering type vale (eg GB/B). Thats why theyll need a few hours to redrive the metering data.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • iamrik9

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 10:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I feel much better after seeing the $B estimates here; I only have an estimate of $34M so far

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Folks can track it directly on AWS Health: https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • bfjvibybd6cuvu6

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 2:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's ok, I owe them 1.22 trillion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • consp

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Maybe you went over 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 twice and came back to positive.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • paulddraper

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 2:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Peanuts

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • szge

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I wonder what's going on; they still don't have a potential solution after 7 hours and they have multiple teams on it. Never seen anything quite like this

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • fuorilegge

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 10:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I have just received a similar alert for $ 5b

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      AWS on their support data is reporting this:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Inaccurate Estimated Billing Data

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Jul 17 3:03 AM PDT We continue to work to resolve the issue affecting estimated cost and usage data displayed in the Billing and Cost Management Console. We have identified the root cause as an issue with unit pricing within the estimated billing computation subsystem and we are working on a mitigation. The displayed billing estimates do not reflect actual usage and charges. There are no customer actions required at this time. Once the issue has been mitigated, we expect full resolution to take multiple hours as we work through recomputing the estimated billing data. We will provide another update by 4:00 AM PDT or sooner if more information becomes available.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Jul 17 2:07 AM PDT Beginning on July 16 7:38 PM PDT, we began displaying incorrect estimated billing data in the Billing and Cost Management Console. Our engineering teams are engaged and investigating root cause. We will provide another update by 3:00 AM PDT or sooner if more information becomes available.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Jul 17 1:33 AM PDT We are investigating issues with Cost Explorer reflecting inaccurate estimated billing data.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • craigmoliver

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 1:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ditto on the heart attack. My cost estimate for the month is currently $223,509,270,216.17. My girlfriend suggested contacting Elon for help. Glad I found this thread. Maybe I should create new keys anyway, this stuff freaks me out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • nottorp

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 11:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Looks like they set up a LLM to estimate billing?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • _joel

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 12:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I've had a mysterious Neptune cluster appear on my billing. Never used it, no API key access (or IAM instance profile access, OIDC etc), nothing in my console shows I've ever had one in any region. Raised a case with support, they ignored it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • daft_pink

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 3:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Maybe it’s one of those absurd situations where canceling a service doesn’t actually stop the charges. Instead, they quietly begin billing you for some random add-on that was bundled with the original service. You never knew it existed, never knew it had to be canceled separately, and now you’re paying full price for a completely pointless ghost service because the only thing it was tied to has already been canceled.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It sounds ridiculous, but something very similar happened to me with Amazon WorkSpaces. During the WorkSpaces setup, an AWS Active Directory (Directory Service) instance was provisioned as part of the deployment. When I later canceled WorkSpaces, I had no idea the Directory Service had to be deleted separately. I kept getting billed for it, and it ultimately cost more per month than the WorkSpace itself had.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • scrapcode

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 2:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Tale as old as time. When I was coming up it took a $20-40/m investment to get a "dedicated" server that you could start tinkering around on. When you couldn't afford that, you bricked the family PC trying to figure out how to configure your own LAMP stack.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Nowadays you just have to risk accidentally billing your parents CC the tune of multi-generation wealth to get that real-world experience.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Imustaskforhelp

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 9:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    No not really, nobody has to be using AWS itself per se to be honest, there are still alternatives around.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I mean I own a 7$/yr vps that I pay with crypto and my stack usually involves golang/rust and oh I also self host my mail for temp-mail esque things on that server and I have some other servers floating around as well.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Its just that everyone uses AWS which is the wrong issue here to be honest. If you ask me, aside from the ram pricing caused by AI inflation, things are pretty good. The issue is that not many people know about server providers and other things and default to AWS/Azure etc. because big companies and small companies alike are using them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Here's a global (interactive) visualization of around ~250 providers, 224 locations and 800 distinct links in 60 countries that I have made if this space interests ya: https://buyvds.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • danny_codes

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 3:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hetzner has hard usage cutoffs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • port3000

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 11:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    They have to pay for that AI Capex buildout somehow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Sheepzez

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 10:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yes, I've got an estimated bill of $4bn. Probably related to the ongoing "Inaccurate Estimated Billing Data" incident?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • jmward01

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 4:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I generally think AWS is better than GCP and azure, but them not allowing spending caps is a big worry source for me and something that has made me pause and rethink using them. A bad click or a bad actor can create tens of thousands of dollars of spend nearly instantly and they can, and will, bill you for it. I can understand that stopping services is hard but some system would be good. For instance, if they had a two tier system where you could stop new services and active things like EC2 would shut down (but not delete) if spend is > x, that kind of thing. Some sort of 'stop the bleeding' concept would give me a lot of piece of mind using them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • mlitwiniuk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 9:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I was actually in the toilet when I got an email I owe them $36,869,876,146.51. I literally just shit myself.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • mlitwiniuk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 1:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ok, back to $0.17 :D

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • andystanton

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 9:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Mine was about the same and evoked a similar response.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • Hamuko

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 10:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I got one for 8 billion while I was eating lunch. Thankfully I managed to not vomit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • jayzer01

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 7:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yes have gotten that before the hundred billion dollar billing alert. Are you ignoring it? Unit error doesn’t do this does it? Maybe they were hir with malware?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • marksk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 10:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  logged in this morning to find a bill of $595 Billion... heart rate went through the roof... then I noticed the open issue, phew! nice one guys... you got me there...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  But with AWS costs rising anyway (not by that much but OK), I'm probably not the only one to start reconsidering their cloud strategy. I think this might have just pushed me over the edge.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • sshine

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Even though it's just a bug, being charged $595B on a platform that is known to cost spike, reminds us that we're not in control of the platform, or our company's expenses.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • fullstop

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 7:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Even if it was 595 billion, that sounds like their problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        "If you owe your bank manager a thousand pounds, you are at his mercy. If you owe him a million pounds, he is at yours."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • sankalpmukim

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 11:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      AWS pushed the wishful thinking internal calculator to production.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • kazinator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 6:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It would not make sense for even a 1200 baud dial-up BBS from 1985 to charge by the byte.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        In 2026, the gigabyte should probably be the default/minimum unit for something like AWS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • WalterGR

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 2:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          > Anyone else seeing something like this?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          You can use the search box at the bottom of every page to search for previous posts.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          This was posted an hour before you posted: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48945241

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • nrmitchi

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 4:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            """ If you own the bank $1000, thats your problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            If you owe the bank $1.7B, thats the banks problem. """

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            What I would be curious about (and I'm sure AWS will never share) is where the incorrect number came from. If the number is somewhat consistent between some groups of accounts, my first guess would be they started summarizing billing across all accounts in whatever cell/grouping/heirarchy AWS architected internally.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Which is just funny.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • pzh

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 7:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Good news is you finally qualify for Enterprise Support and you've never been closer to a Series B.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • beardsciences

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 6:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I made something that tries to highlight the humor regarding this:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48950534

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • andystanton

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 9:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  A couple of relevant links: - AWS Status Page: https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status - Reddit Thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/1uyuaw7/help_my_bill_s...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • paulbjensen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 11:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    AWS revenue for 2025 was $128.7 billion, so I'd say probably a bug.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • archerx

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 11:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Double your yearly revenue with this simple trick


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • yonatan8070

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 12:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Vendor-locked customers _hate_ him!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • noisy_boy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 1:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      If I can expect to be penalized for not paying my legitimate bills, companies should also be penalized for failing to implement common-sense reasonable safeguards that prevent them from slapping their consumers with such absurdities.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • hoppp

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 6:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        This is the second time I hear about this. I am happy my credit card linked to AWS expired. Just in-case my usual $0.00 ends up 100 million

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • today at 3:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • dpcx

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 12:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My estimate was over 2T. Talk about waking up quickly...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • Cthulhu_

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 1:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                For science I hope people are trying to figure out now how they could manage to rack up a 2T bill in a month.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • dpcx

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 2:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My immediate thought was that someone managed to get an access key, stuffed a ton of data in there, and then was doing a ridiculous amount of egress. That was the only way I could conceivably coming up with anywhere near that much cost.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • netsharc

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I doubt AWS has capability to do anything to generate $2T of charges, even if one user maxed every billable capability of every resource they have.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        If I got an email with that amount I would've just laughed at the incompetence that lead to a bug that lead to me getting the email. But I write as a backseat email recipient.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • nblgbg

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 3:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My guess is that it's because of some vibe-coding stuff! We are using LLMs to write code, validate code and test the code ! What can go wrong ?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • luciana1u

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 2:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                somewhere a junior dev at AWS just learned their billing dashboard has been off by a factor of a billion and is currently having the worst shower of their career

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • salamo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 5:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  $1.7 billion is small potatoes. My bill is over $155 billion and growing. I'm worried if the trend continues I'll have depleted my rainy day fund.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • tyrelb

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 5:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I was at $5 trillion, on the way to $9 trillion!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • tokioyoyo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 1:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thank you so much! I just woke up, and saw budget alert email for a dormant account to use $434,896.90. I haven't gotten so awake so fast in such a long time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • tcp_handshaker

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 2:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I would not be so relaxed...Your estimate is so low that is likely to be real :-) You should only be relaxed if its in the Trillions...+

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • ahme

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 6:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Just pay it and move on. No need to cause a scene.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Arslan1997

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 7:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        THis is why I hate API/usage pricing

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • csunbird

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 9:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Just got a budget alert that I owe $286,486,223.88 on a hobby aws account, almost got a heart attack.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • LunicLynx

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 7:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Need some money for a new Launchpad

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • nneonneo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 3:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Given the wild but apparently "consistent" numbers I wonder if we could reverse-engineer the wrong algorithm with enough data points? Maybe the proper cost estimate has some relationship to the reported cost estimate.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • compounding_it

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 12:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Are you sure it’s a bug ?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The crypto network you hosted should pay for itself in 10-20 years just like LLMs. Don’t worry. Consider Bank of America until then if you are good on credit score.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • alfiedotwtf

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 12:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Vibe Billing

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • not_your_vase

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 6:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Lol, Friday deployment is a bad omen even with LLM. Some things are just unchangeable facts of life.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • btown

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 3:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      If AWS was a predatory mobile gacha game, we'd get 300 apology gems as credit to our accounts for this mixup, to help us in our rolls for the next 3-letter acronym they release.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Do the right thing for the players, Matt!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • galoisscobi

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I just deleted my aws account. I don't need these vibes in my life.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • devin-2030

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 1:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          At some point my role was to reduce our startup’s AWS bill. I managed to keep 7 figures on our books instead of handing it to AWS. But a message like that would have given me a heart attack in those days.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Long story short: it saved the company from irrelevance. “Well-architected” is for the hyperscalers’ balance sheet, not yours.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • princetman

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 9:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mine is showing $241,946,798,744.75. I know it will be reverted, but for a brief minute there I suspected someone compromised my account and triggered rust rewrite of everything using thousands of agents via Bedrock :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Phew.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • throwaway_5753

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 11:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Should have used Fable.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • cifvts

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 10:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yes, an incident is ongoing https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • mawadev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 3:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  This is just the cloud area, what if Amazon starts vibe charging regular customers because of some bug? Accounts that are directly linked with regular people's payment methods?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • kumarski

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 6:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    You're not working hard enough if your AWS bill isn't $1.7B.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • akerl_

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 10:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Looks like this is a bug w/ S3

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • im-broke

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 10:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Help, what is this number - US$87,967,679,887,258.36

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • sshine

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 10:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That's 87 trillion, 967 billion, 679 million, and so on.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • today at 2:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • boesboes

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I seem to have spend >35trilion on rds today, sooo yeah, going great at AWS

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • mjmasn

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 2:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It's a good job it was off by such a large amount, or I might have panicked instead of writing it off as a phishing attempt. I had an email saying my $7.50 budget had been exceeded with an actual cost of $3bn.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • cma256

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 2:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                In moments like these I'm reminded of all the people who have committed suicide due to billing errors. This is completely unacceptable. These sorts of errors must _never_ happen.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • tete

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 4:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's okay. They are market leaders. And we use their services cause we can trust that they know what they are doing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • tanseydavid

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    For anything below a Trillion, you should just take it out petty-cash. </sarc>

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My sympathies -- I know I would be overcome with panic in such a situation.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • today at 2:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • rcleveng

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 2:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        My first thought was "Oh hell, who left the NAT Gateway on?"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • localhostinger

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 4:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I am running a niche SaaS with around 20 users per day on AWS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I too was shocked when I saw the $1.7billion bill, instead of the usual $1.5billion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • sailfast

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 12:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Who is going to compensate us for the years taken off our lives when we received the alerts?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Draiken

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 6:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Only 1.7? I got $55B up from 41 cents.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I literally almost had a heart attack today.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • PeterStuer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 6:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Funny how these errors always go one direction.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • abkolan

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 12:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Will wait for the RCA, the update says that they will resort to last known estimate as of 15 July. I’m guessing that would imply that the bug is at a lower level, write or an ingestion path.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • ownagefool

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 12:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mines was $190,594,974,587,761.20 :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • nixgeek

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 3:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Wow. As a side effect, this outage is handing Corey Quinn material for the next 4 years of AWS shitposting. No longer is NAT Gateway the prime target.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • today at 2:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Group_B

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 1:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yeah nearly had a heart attack this morning. Thought keys were leaked for a sec.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • gioazzi

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 12:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Heard of somebody who got 19 quadrillion dollars - I thought they meant Zimbabwean dollars

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • elashri

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 12:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                one USD is about 362 Zimbabwean dollars. So it would still be about ~53 trillion dollars which is more than the nominal GDP of US and China combined.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Polizeiposaune

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 1:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    For history here, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_Zimbabwe

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Zimbabwe redenominated its currency three times in 2006, 2008, and 2009, dropping a total of 25 trailing zeros in the process. the 4th Zimbabwean dollar in 2009 was worth 10^25 of the first zimbabwean dollar.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • Waterluvian

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 12:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  That would have been a great deal!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • AegirLeet

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 9:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Maybe this is a new strategy to scare people into finally locking down their old, unused AWS accounts. It sure worked for me!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • traceroute66

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 3:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48945681

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • meraku

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 9:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Same here. Usually $0.15 per month, current bill is $15.4 billion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Hamuko

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 10:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I went from 0.03€ to $8B.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • sshine

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 10:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Not only did your cost spike, it changed currency and went from postfix to prefix!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I understand people complaining about large bills, but this is over the top!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • raffraffraff

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 6:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Our S3 bill for a single day was $48 trillion

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • aweiland

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 12:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Glad I saw this. Mine said I racked up $400B yesterday. My usual spend is $15.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • radku

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 5:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I almost got a heart attack seeing a bill for 48B USD!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • avpushking

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 3:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Me too, hello all. I've got 59 Million dollars in billing threshold reached email from AWS. And felt the same as others, and after half an hour of investigation I saw their message on top of the support page. I have 6 mb for static website stores in S3. No other resources.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • anzovec

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 12:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              In my 30s, I almost had a heart attack too. I got a notification saying that my cost budget had been increased to one million dollars...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • bryanrasmussen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 2:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                hmm, if these estimates of Amazon profit for the next quarter are correct Bezos is set to become a trillionaire! Take that Musk!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • zcemycl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 10:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Aws has created more unicorns than any accelerators.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • dvh

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 12:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Prompt: bill our aws customers, make no mistakes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • vel0city

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 12:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Prompt: investigate new ways to fund additional AI datacenters.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • zengineer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 12:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          or: Increase revenue!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Cthulhu_

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 1:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I mean just overcharging is one approach to achieving that goal I suppose.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              But so is imprisoning or exterminating all humans for their own good, as most AI dystopias end up as.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • roskoalexey

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 12:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Total forecasted cost for current month $477,000,039,440.24

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Insane

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • foo-bar-baz529

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 10:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hope they’re using 64 bits to store these prices

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • sva_

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 11:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              float will have to do it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • HarHarVeryFunny

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 12:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            They should have added "make no mistakes" to the prompt.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • reactordev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 11:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              “Due to a rounding error” or a buffer overflow, you now owe INT_MAX to BaldGuyCloudService.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yeah, this most certainly is bad code wrapping around a value. AWS will post a notice soon if they haven’t already.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • whatever1

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 3:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Is it even possible to audit the cloud pricing? They just give us a number and we pay.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • sokoloff

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    On AWS, you can enable CUR (cost and usage reporting) and get detailed, line-item billing figures that you can audit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    And naturally, companies like Cloudability [now Apptio] and others have sprung up to do parts of this for you [at a fee, of course...]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cur/latest/userguide/what-is-cur...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm sure other cloud vendors have similar functionality (because they need this on the back end to do their own billing anyway).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • steveBK123

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 11:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Golden era of software productivity they say

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • grg0

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 4:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Look how much money AI is making.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • steveBK123

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 5:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          We finally found the ROI!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • djantje

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 11:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I also like the percentual change, that is a lot of comma's.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • hedora

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 3:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And to think the federal government claims inflation is in the single digits this year!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • luciana1u

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 5:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        at $1.7 billion, that unit conversion error is now the most expensive TODO comment in software history

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • lsdafjasd

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 11:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I have $13,034.40, while not having used AWS for the last 8 months. Not as much but still crapped my pants

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • josefdlange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 10:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Well, no coffee needed this morning.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            $103,515,940,301.79

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • hedora

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 3:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Does the affiliate program still work for AWS? When do I get my referral fee?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • cad1

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 4:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Go turn off autopay now! For personal accounts anyway

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • chanux

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 4:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Who else had LinkedIn posts about this flashing before your eyes?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • abkolan

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 12:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The panic was real. We read about keys getting stolen all the time. Was about to nuke my set up too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • durron

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 2:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      $44 trillion over here, at least our bill was so outrageously high that I just laughed

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • rtkwe

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Aw man I was hoping to punk my manager but our cost estimates are unaffected.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • glaslong

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Seems like a scam. Call your CC company and issue a chargeback :p

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • jimbokun

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            This is a strong argument to either self host or work really hard to be cloud agnostic.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • tedk-42

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 12:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              far out it's 10pm here and I was just about to sleep when my wife nugged me about a billing alert from AWS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              $151 billion the number for me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • MacCopper

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 2:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                My Budget is 10$. The month forecasted cost associated with this budget is $182,278,249,263.06.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Even though I new they could not collect the whole amount, I wondered whether I was hacked. I closed the account, it was an old testing account anyways.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • kayo_20211030

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 3:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  What an `effin disaster. The alert almost gave me a heart attack.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • axus

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 2:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    This is just Anthropic reaching out to their customers for help with their AWS bill.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • themgt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 12:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      "If you owe AWS a hundred thousand dollars, that's your problem. If you owe AWS three billion dollars, that's Amazon's problem."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • bentobean

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 4:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Lucky. I’m on the hook for 54 billion (and change).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • ElevenLathe

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 2:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Our alert was for exceeding $300...by several hundred billion dollars.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • ninjin-carh

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 9:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I got 109 billion - am I the winner?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • princetman

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 9:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sorry mate, $241,946,798,744.75 for Glacier here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • nprateem

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 9:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Depends. Did you also get a free heart attack?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • kubelsmieci

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 11:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      This is real risk. Someone could really have a serious health problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • lordleft

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 12:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Got a message that I owe 37 million on an account that I haven't used in probably...6 years?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • tonymet

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 7:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I hope you have auto pay disabled

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • bknight1983

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 11:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm disappointed I only got a bill for $28M, need to work harder on burning money. Seriously though I thought my life flashed before me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • danousna

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 11:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yeah, small timers, I only got $4,4T. How will I finance this?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • rodeduivel

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 11:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            MMT!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • marcosdumay

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 3:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Unfortunately, it's only Amazon that can issue bills backed by that debt, not the GP.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • MichaelNolan

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 12:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          $28m actually seems worse. If I wake to a $100b bill, that’s obviously a mistake. If I wake up to a bill in the millions then my first thought would be “oh no what did I do wrong, this will ruin my life”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • cmollis

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 10:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        yeah.. i just to a daily cost alert.. it was only 23 trillion dollars this month. i thought, hmm seems kind of high this month.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • anibal-sanchez

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 3:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The new data centers are more expensive:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ACTUAL Amount: $1,046,294,123,330.95

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • ryanschaefer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The market *hates* this one weird trick to juice earnings

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • atmosx

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 12:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Looks like you are the biggest shareholder. Well, going by the popular saying: “You own AWS now”.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • lilerjee

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 4:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                It looks like AI is completely done.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • rootsu

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 2:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Our org account's bill is showing up as > 100 trillion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • sebmellen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 3:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You've got to grab a screenshot of that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Avicebron

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 2:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Nothing like generational debt to kick off a Friday morning

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • jerf

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 9:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        This is generational debt for a Kardashev Type III civilization. If there are individuals who are being charged "the whole of the GDP the human race has ever produced", then Amazon is claiming the rest of the world owes them a fairly significant portion of the galaxy if you consider the entire billing claims being made here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        There have been some big billing errors in the past but I wouldn't be surprised this is a new record, by some orders of magnitude. I know I've seen people charged around 92 quadrillion, which is a rounding error from underflowing a signed 64-bit integer with pennies, but those stories are usually isolated individuals. It sounds like the aggregate error here may comfortably exceed that. Hard to tell how widespread this is; as a data point my ~$2.00/month spend on S3 seems to still be billing correctly, so it must not be affecting everyone. But a few trillion here and a few trillion there and you get up to those quadrillions pretty quick.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • fantasizr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 4:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      it seems like these types of problems have gained frequency in the ai era, or is it just recency bias?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • rickette

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 12:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Some guy named Claude screwed up.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • kvcm

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 12:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I had Hermes managing mine, and it made a partial prepayment to help smooth out the bump in my account balance. Unfortunately Billing Support say my $17.4B refund may take up to 10 calendar days to be processed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • hypfer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            To be exactly that guy:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            This cannot happen if you do not do this renting at variable rates.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            A thing you own doesn't suddenly bill you trillions of dollars in error. It doesn't hyperscale either, but neither do you.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • shobhitgupta

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 3:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Have even seen a $9.2 trillion for a friend.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • ohnoooooooooo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 12:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Did it recover for you folks? I still see billions of dollars!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • swah

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 5:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I prefer to just pay...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • thisisauserid

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 11:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    FinSlops.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • xyz7786

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 1:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      $250 billion. Nearly died right then and there

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • roosgit

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 11:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Amazon, the first quadrillion-dollar company.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • elzbardico

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 6:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Just got a call from the IMF president begging me to not default my debt with Amazon and offering me credit line and a plan to re-structure my debt so I don't create a global financial crisis with my default.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • fathermarz

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 11:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Just got mine. $534,366,582,647.75

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • jagged-chisel

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 2:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Shocking! That seventy five cents is suspicious.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • drakmo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 4:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              yeah the AI read billionaring instead of billing

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • phplovesong

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 5:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Vibe coded fix, resulted in many having multi billion bills. Claude really did it this time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • segmondy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 2:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  vibe coding for the win.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • orbasker

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 3:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes seeing the same, so far no response from AWS support

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • mariopt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 3:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      VibeBilling, love it

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • rvz

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 10:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I expect such incidents like this to continue. So please keep vibe coding.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • jdw64

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 1:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I almost had a heart attack because of this. I was like, did I mess up my API management? Why didn't I just use Lightsail? Those were the thoughts running through my head.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          My personal website is on Lightsail, but those alerts started popping up from some test services I had set up while I was studying AI. I swear my heart nearly stopped and I cried. I really think AWS should have spending limits in place.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          My bank account barely has enough for next month's rent.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • Executor

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 1:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            This generation is too entitled! He should some learn responsibility by paying the full amount; otherwise Amazon should delete his services/data. Consequences!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • gomid

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 12:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Curious if it's just s3 costs or other services as well?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • jatin_oo71

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 2:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  for me it was s3 cost only

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • victorbjorklund

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 5:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Wild.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • ohnoooooooooo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 3:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  do you see cost ever day for the month of July or just the last day? I also have billions of dollars in cost explorer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • ohnoooooooooo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 5:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      now it is fixed for me as well. issue is still open in aws health center though

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • balintpeter

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 9:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yea, same here. $420M+ bill, when we have <10$ per month usually.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • realizer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 10:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      $627,487,837,871.49

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I might be a winner.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • infamouscow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 4:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The charge-back penalties are going to be hilarious and hopefully bankrupting.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • dlev_pika

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 4:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          > $5,544,640,717,404.09

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          This is what we received this morning

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • hoppp

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 12:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            How much is that in kidneys?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • atmosx

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 12:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                A lot.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • 6stringmerc

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 4:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks for sharing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I’m currently dealing with Verizon Wireless and their “Jabronibot” claiming I have a fictional account balance due. It has been sent to collections, but still is being asked for by their legacy system.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The case studies of “Agents in Billing Departments” and potential shareholder lawsuits / E&O claims / reputational damage will be interesting to me. I worked in “risk management” products years ago and this kind of liability is not easily dollar traded away via contract. Will accountability stick to the Decision Makers or will they try to surrogate to the Service Providers? Hmm.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • josefritzishere

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 4:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I think I know how Bezos plans to pay for his Billion dollar AI costs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • bryan_w

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 4:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  In an .md file somewhere:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  "NEVER represent currency with floating point, multiply by 100 and store in an int before doing any math"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • kinkuraj

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 11:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes I received an 2.8m USD budget alert.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • bdangubic

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 3:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I just invested ALL my money into AMZN cause next earnings report will be FIRE :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • tamimio

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 3:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Results of vibe coding and vibe configurations.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • artisinal

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 5:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          File a GDPR request to have your account deleted.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Then flee the country just to be sure.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • anon49584

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 3:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Imagine the chaos if, as people sometimes suggest should happen, AWS shut down running instances in accounts that exceeded a billing threshold..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • reaperducer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 3:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Obvs have created an urgent AWS support ticket.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I think I would have just waited to see what happened when AWS tried to hit my credit card for $1,700,000,000.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              When do you ever get that opportunity?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • th3o6a1d

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 11:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                131 billion for me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • jameskilton

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 12:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  My personal photo backup S3 account, with a budget limit of $10, now going to cost me ....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  $1,299,988,247,332.56!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  That was a fun set of emails to wake up to, figured they had to be phishing for how outrageous of a number it was. But nope! Fun little incident they've got going over there.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • mrcwinn

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 2:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So long as customers are good for it, AWS is about to crush earnings!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • tgv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 11:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Mine was a mere $49B. Fucking idiots.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • atmosx

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 12:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Cheap!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • xbar

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 2:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Rife.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • today at 2:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • tcp_handshaker

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            If its less than 2 billion is likely to be real :-) I would relax only if its in the trillions ...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48945681

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • mapt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 11:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              AMZN Q2 numbers are in, and it turns out they're going to Goldman Sachs the AI bubble.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • nprateem

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 12:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I guess on the plus side I'm $1.7B better off so I can retire...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • znpy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 12:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Is AWS in their "move fast and break things" era ?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • jagged-chisel

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 2:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lumber along and smash stuff

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • cyanydeez

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 10:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    AWS has become the uber employer: before AWS, you just had regular employers steeling employee wages bit by bit by forcing work, skipping breaks, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    All hail the new generations of our uberployers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • hokkos

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Same, i am now a slave to Jeff Bezos to the end of my life.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • tcp_handshaker

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 2:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Three billion dollars sounds about right for a free week of Kiro in the default Agentic mode. We usually see slightly higher numbers, so I wouldn’t be too concerned.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • jatin_oo71

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 2:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          storage, compute cost is increasing AWS be like lets increase prices

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • pelagicAustral

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 11:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Imagine it not being a bug...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • Sebb767

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 11:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                As the famous saying goes: If you owe the bank a million dollars, you have a problem. If you owe the bank a billion dollars, the bank has a problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • speedgoose

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 11:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Time to become a shepherd in some remote mountains.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • RGamma

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 11:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Surprise hyperinflation. Check the breadshelves!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • tlovage

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 10:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I got estimated costs of $56.something billions. Usually ~$100/month. My heart rate currently still sits at around 160 bpm. Motherfuckers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • benzingtech

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 8:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    you too with Fable huh?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • huntoa

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 3:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      invoicemaxxing

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • lovich

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 11:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You really should get your spending under control. Unfortunately unless you become one of the real people class through a large lottery, it sounds like you owe the rest of your life to AWS until you can pay off your debts for being so careless.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • jatin_oo71

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 2:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          aws becoming first quadrillion dollars company

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • cyanydeez

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 11:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            someones been dognfooding the AI too muxh

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • steve1977

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 2:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I mean 3 billion USD is clearly too big to fail, so I wouldn't worry too much

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • today at 3:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • today at 2:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • ohnoooooooooo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 12:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    did it recover for you? I still see billions

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • aweiland

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 1:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Mine has

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • ohnoooooooooo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 3:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            thx, when? Was it only last day or the whole month of July was inflated?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 1-6

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 3:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Fast and loose with billing data. Welcome to the new Amazon.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • ratelimitsteve

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 2:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        a billion here, a billion there, sooner or later it adds up

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • lightedman

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 1:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Literal basic fucking math, Amazon.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          You don't need hours to recalculate billing. You need to go back to basic algebra.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Anyone using Amazon and dealing with this should be moving away from their services because something this basic going wrong means the correct people are not at the helm of the ship.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • tcp_handshaker

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 2:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              >> Literal basic fucking math, Amazon

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              LLMs are notoriously bad at it...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • 1234letshaveatw

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 2:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            brb, off to buy some AMZN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • ares623

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 10:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              this counts towards ARR right? would be stupid not to

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • rucury

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 10:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Uhh class action incoming? $34,909,930,575.09 over here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • akerl_

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 10:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    What would your damages be? They’re not actually going to charge your credit card for 34 billion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • infamouscow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 6:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I could see someone sadly taking their own life over this.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • rucury

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 11:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I mean, emotional damages are a thing right?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • akerl_

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 11:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Not really in the way the media would have you believe.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Like “I was scared for a couple minutes on a Friday morning until I saw the vendor status page” is orders of magnitude away from the bar here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • Neikius

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 2:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I wonder how many people died of heart attack when they saw this.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Hamuko

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 10:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I hope they send out some free credits at least. I imagine quite a few people got a real fucking scare today. They haven't even sent out any corrections yet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • fian

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 11:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            This is probably going to push me to completely close a couple of AWS accounts I setup when doing training courses so I could get certified (mandatory requirement from my work).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I'm not currently running anything and have no plans to at the moment. I've always had a mild dread that I'll suddenly get a bill for more than $0.00.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            If AWS can goof in a way that causes obviously massive bills (like today), what's to say they can't goof in more subtle ways and start charging small additional amounts that many people may not notice and just pay it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • r0ckarong

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 11:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Pff rookie numbers, mine was 375 billion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • nigel-dev

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 4:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Small potato's sir, my bill > GDP of Switzerland. A cool $1.2T

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • tyrelb

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 5:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I was at $5 trillion, on the way to $9 trillion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • kylecazar

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 11:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You didn't have savings opportunities enabled

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • port3000

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 11:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Rookie error

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • gib444

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 11:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Maybe they accidentally used the Argentine peso ;)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • _joel

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 12:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Less hyper-scaler, more hyper-inflation

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • aisloper

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 3:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I blame A.I. usage

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • bdangubic

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 11:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              eh your typical off-by-7 (zeros) programmer mistake

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • cliglot

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 3:43 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • zero_k

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 7:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Wow, so true! Domain expertise is apparently not a requirement. At all. Wow.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • thewebguyd

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 8:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Of course not, domain expertise is expensive no matter what the field is, and to the big companies like Amazon the whole point of GenAI is to get rid of those pesky expensive humans and replace them with cheaper humans.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • lanceroyy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 9:14 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • endless_smash

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    today at 10:33 AM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • blitzar

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      today at 11:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      In unrelated news I just hit my target for S3 revenue (projections). Promotion meeting locked in for tomorrow (fastest in the companies history), looking forward to being a L2 Amazon employee.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • lostnfound8778

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        today at 11:55 AM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • jimwilson

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          today at 2:34 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • GuestFAUniverse

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            today at 10:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Don't worry. With so much debt banks start to treat you with respect. /S

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Honestly, I would worry more about estimated billing that seems plausible in general, but is way to high for you personally. These ridiculous amounts? Not so much.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • Hamuko

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 10:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I got freaked out by the mere fact that I got a billing alert, since getting one would require my monthly spend to have suddenly exploded.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • throwaway43871

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              today at 3:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Clearly they weren't tokenmaxxing hard enough or weren't using the latest models /s.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              What an absolute joke. All just so that line goes up. As if their fees weren't high enough vs. alternatives (especially egress). And I'm sure the pro-AI crowd will keep saying we're luddites for not loving this clearly revolutionary and disruptive tech.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                today at 3:17 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  today at 1:07 PM

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