Uber cuts 23% of people division as new president takes over
59 points - today at 4:06 PM
Sourcesimplyluke
today at 5:33 PM
It's hard for me to not notice that the new C-level marching orders this year are that "measurement" jobs is actually what AI is killing (managers, HR, data, etc), and that seems to be an about face from IC-work being dead after the data is pretty clearly showing the opposite.
Do we not need HR and managers, or are those just more popular roles to cut and the impact takes longer to show up?
hyperpape
today at 5:49 PM
Management is very prone to fads. The current fad is that middle management is useless. Tomorrow, they'll discover the idea that organizations can have employees "working hard" on things that no one cares about, and that someone actually needs to work on focusing that effort.
Of course, the truth is you can have too many middle managers or too few (it really was bad that in 2017, the biggest achievement was "growing headcount"). But fads have a tendency to overcorrect.
> The report also said that Human Resources employees at Uber, who had previously been cleared to work from home, are being asked to return to the office to comply with a three-day-a-week rule that took effect last June.
I feel this is direction much tech companies will take.
Aboutplants
today at 5:23 PM
That is just soft firing, those choosing to not return to office will be among the 23%. That has been a normal tactic for years now.
Maybe. But, at my compare all new starters must be in the office 3 days a week.
MagicMoonlight
today at 5:33 PM
I love that we all know it’s just pointless suffering, to the point that they’re using it as a strategy to make people quit. If it had any positives they wouldn’t be doing this.
languagehacker
today at 5:03 PM
Wonder how many of them got hired as a response to all the Travis Kalanick-era notoriety
queuebert
today at 5:37 PM
As we enter this era of far more qualified candidates than jobs, HR will die eventually the equivalent of index funds is for hiring. Just as most money managers didn't beat the market and lost out to Bogle's low-cost index funds, people will figure out that HR doesn't do any better than any other random criteria for hiring and firing employees, since most of the applicants for most jobs will be able to do the job sufficiently well. Probably the answer is some sort of AI, but I bet you could do just as well rolling dice.
If most of us are honestly with ourselves, we'd realize the marginal return on difficult hiring decisions is extremely small.
As for the CYA aspect of HR, an AI can definitely do that cheaper and more callously.
rogerrogerr
today at 5:45 PM
I would have assumed hiring / screening resumes is a relatively small fraction of what an HR department does?
That’s a very simplified view of HR. Human Resources does a lot of things. During the cash rich days a tech company HR department might end up doing a bunch of nonsense[1] but the fundamental value of the department is there and will continue.
HR is rarely involved in hiring decisions, that’s the responsibility of the hiring manager which is typically the new hire’s manager. At a very big company you might have HR screening applicants but that’s to save time for hiring managers.
[1] just as engineering ends up doing a bunch of nonsense when the money is flowing.
What's the only thing worse than 1 HR Rep?
onlyrealcuzzo
today at 5:14 PM
Hard to imagine a better HR department than non-humans...
new_account_104
today at 4:57 PM
Looks like it's a good time for Uber employees to start discussing unionization.
crystal_revenge
today at 5:35 PM
The "good time" to discussion unionization would have been about 10 years ago when employees had much more leverage.
But I quite vividly remember any mention of that here on HN back then was responded to with "I'm paid great and can easily change jobs why would I want a union?" (with many engineers only thinking of factory worker unions as a model and forgetting that very highly paid and in demand actors also belong to a union).
You negotiate when you're in a position of strength, not while your value is rapidly falling through your fingers.
With AI and a growing population of ex-corporate workers desperate for work breaking up attempts to unionize would be easier than ever.
new_account_104
today at 5:40 PM
> With AI and a growing population of ex-corporate workers desperate for work breaking up attempts to unionize would be easier than ever.
I'm not buying it.
If every employee is part of a union, what happens then when companies over-hire?
Unionized companies can still do layoffs.
1270018080
today at 5:16 PM
Ironically an HR department is detrimental to unionization efforts
I think GP means it is more vulnerable now.
new_account_104
today at 5:18 PM
What do you mean "Ironically"?
brianwawok
today at 5:21 PM
The department that wants to stop the creation of union would itself benefit from being in a union?
"One rule for thee, but another for me."
Similar are situations where employees of a labor union are themselves unionized - under a different union - because they feel ill-paid and ill-treated by the union which employs them.
Why?
> About 90% of Uber’s software engineers are using AI in their work, Khosrowshahi said, while about 30% are “power users” of AI tools, completely rethinking the architecture of the company. [1]
Either you lose job or you make a union.
[1]
Sounds like a bad idea. Adopt the future or get out of the way. This is dock workers all over again. Massive amounts of automation could be had but instead we have dock unions that only serve to increase costs.
throwaway613746
today at 5:33 PM
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rooftopzen
today at 5:04 PM
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Do you think it's healthy for your soul to reduce humans down to numbers? Would you like to be reduced to a number too?
Wait, did I miss a meeting? Are you saying HR employees are humans? That has not been my experience