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BBEdit 16

116 points - today at 6:21 PM

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  • kennywinker

    today at 7:37 PM

    In 1998 bbedit 5.0 cost $120 usd. Adjusted for inflation that would be about $245 usd.

    Today an individual license costs $60.

    Wild how software pricing and sales models have changed, and good on bare bones for staying away from subscription pricing.

      • factorialboy

        today at 7:41 PM

        The pie (market) has also vastly expanded since 1998. Need to factor that, and not just inflation.

          • sedatk

            today at 7:50 PM

            Proportionally, competition has vastly expanded too.

    • classichasclass

      today at 6:32 PM

      Proud user since the classic Mac OS days (anyone else remember the OpenDoc version?), and it's still a solid editor at a good price.

        • Cassell

          today at 7:27 PM

          TextWrangler!

          • sigzero

            today at 7:27 PM

            Same. Recently moved to Windows (blah) but if I move back, that's a purchase for me.

        • kstrauser

          today at 7:22 PM

          I use Zed more now, but BBEdit's still pretty great. I love, love, LOVE that I can extend it with shell scripts or Python tools or Rust apps or whatever else I have laying around. Sometimes I don't want to write a whole plugin, let alone in JavaScript or whatever. I just want to say "process this text with this tool" and have it work. BBEdit's second to none for that.

          • LeoPanthera

            today at 7:28 PM

            My search for a "just a text editor" ended with "CotEdit". It's Mac native, not Electron, and supports both RTL and vertical text. All I could ever want.

            • KenSF

              today at 7:45 PM

              It still doesn't suck.

              • _HMCB_

                today at 6:46 PM

                Love to see this app trending on HN.

                • headwayoldest

                  today at 7:01 PM

                  I have used and loved Barebones stuff in the past, but strikes me as odd they're still advertising Yojimbo on their main page. It was fantastic, but has been abandoned for quite some time.

                    • sharkjacobs

                      today at 7:11 PM

                      It's supported for Tahoe. It's still good functional software and this is the ideal right? They're selling finished software for a flat price without needing a subscription model to support continued development.

                      • kstrauser

                        today at 7:15 PM

                        You were downvoted but right. The changelog[0] shows that the current minor version (4.6) came out in 2020, and its only had 3 bugfix releases since then, most recently in 2023. A lot has changed since 2020, so this doesn't know about the major iCloud updates, or Apple Intelligence, or UI changes (not just talking about Liquid Glass either).

                        None of those things imply that it's broken or unusable. Still, it means it's going to feel like a dated app and that's not fun.

                        [0]https://www.barebones.com/support/yojimbo/archived_notes.htm...

                          • debugnik

                            today at 7:36 PM

                            > so this doesn't know about the major iCloud updates, or Apple Intelligence, or UI changes

                            I'm not familiar with macOS: Why would an application need to be updated for any of these? Were the existing APIs insufficient to integrate these?

                            • Barbing

                              today at 7:38 PM

                              If they add one word, β€œLegacyβ€œ, under the product name, I would likely be adequately warned.

                              Barebones is great!

                      • submeta

                        today at 7:43 PM

                        BBEdit used to be my text-transformation tool.

                        Happily paid for every update for years, even when I used Emacs, I kept BBedit in reach. For quick text edits/transformations (because Regex in Emacs is hard to use). But with LLMs + nvim I hardly start bbedit anymore.

                        So now with LLMs, I tell them what I need and they write a shell/Perl/Python script to make the craziest transformations.

                        • steviedotboston

                          today at 7:04 PM

                          Love BBEdit!

                          • gnerd00

                            today at 6:48 PM

                            So great to see this -- the last version of BBedit I paid for is the gold standard for me, for editors... I mean compared to twenty other editors of various kinds on desktop Linux and elsewhere..

                            • jfb

                              today at 6:30 PM

                              I wonder if it will ever get emacs tabs.

                                • marcelox86

                                  today at 7:17 PM

                                  I use emacs but I don't know what you're referring to. Can you enlighten me please

                                    • k33n

                                      today at 7:28 PM

                                      I think maybe he meant chords.

                              • throwaway613746

                                today at 6:55 PM

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                                • ndegruchy

                                  today at 6:33 PM

                                  > Support for vi keyboard emulation, for basic navigation and editing;

                                  I'm sure some people will like this update, but it's a big meh for me. I'll wait for some further updates to upgrade.

                                    • dizhn

                                      today at 7:48 PM

                                      You can search for text within images.