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Sopwith – 1984 Game (2000)

72 points - yesterday at 6:06 PM

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  • NikolaNovak

    yesterday at 8:08 PM

    One of first games I ever played at my dad's work when I was probably 6 or 7 years old. I've always enjoyed flight Sims, understanding this dubiously qualifies :). I've enjoyed the strategic aspect of fuel and bomb management and while the ai is simple, it provided a challenge.

    I now have kids of my own; over the winter I setup an old laptop with old games, and started introducing them chronologically to games like Sopwith, Paratrooper, Alley Cat etc.

    My 6 year olds son comment on this game in his journal:

    "I like: everything. I don't like: nothing."

    Took me a second to not over interpret the seeming double negative :-)

    Update : years later I played wings of fury on my cousin's amiga 500 ; far better game but not the same magic :)

    • abroun_beholder

      yesterday at 10:20 PM

      I loved Sopwith as a child and back in 2004 I made my own version 'Camel' as a homage to Sopwith https://sopwithcamel.sourceforge.net/ to get myself a job in the games industry. Hard to compete with the original though. :)

      • danw1979

        yesterday at 8:07 PM

        The first time I ever saw a PC it was running Sopwith. Must have been 1989. I loved the game, but it was this exotic new machine that really interested me. It had 5.25” floppies, probably a 286 and quite an old machine by then.

        I had only used Z80/128k machines up to then. My dad had an Amstrad 6128, with those 3” “hard” floppies, sturdy, with a decent thick metal gate.

        This PC was a very different beast. I remember being confused about the disks. They seemed weak and unprotected ! you could literally see that delicate magnetic surface through the opening. I had always been told never to touch it, but there it was, just asking to be touched…

        • Sharlin

          yesterday at 8:58 PM

          The classic Sopwith clone from the golden days of the Finnish shareware game scene, Triplane Turmoil, turns thirty this year. It was open sourced in 2009 and community-ported to more modern platforms via SDL. Was a lot of fun back in the days of shared-keyboard multiplayer.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triplane_Turmoil

          • digitalsushi

            yesterday at 10:32 PM

            I got sopwith.exe from my uncle's "big blue disks" subscription. plus a lot of other racy games an 8 year old shouldn't have played.

            I tried playing a copy on a modern computer and the game started and finished on its own in about 1/4 of a second! i'm not that fast anymore!

            I got very good at dropping the bomb while upside down and then flipping and getting outta there. i was also obsessed with disney's tale spin and imagined it was the seaduck.

            • pan69

              yesterday at 7:39 PM

              I remember playing this on my families Olivetti M24. It was very difficult. Maybe because the game was speed sensitive and the M24 was an 8086 running 8Mhz. Good times nonetheless.

              • emmelaich

                yesterday at 11:42 PM

                Great game. I was hoping for a webgl/wasm version but oh well.

                • bananaboy

                  yesterday at 10:14 PM

                  Like many others here I played this a lot when young on my dad’s PC. I remember finding it really hard to play at the time!

                  • jedberg

                    yesterday at 7:40 PM

                    I played this on the original IBM PC. (Un)fortunately, my dad got the 8MHz upgrade, so the game was really hard, because it was built for a 4MHz clock.

                    Luckily someone eventually realeased a DOS utility that would fake a 4MHz clock by making everything take two cycles.

                    Good times. :)

                      • wingmanjd

                        today at 12:15 AM

                        Was the utility called slomo? I recall having to do something like `slomo sopwith.exe` to bring the processing loop back down into human ranges of reaction times.

                        • hencq

                          yesterday at 7:49 PM

                          I think ours had a turbo button that would double/half the clock speed. Good times indeed :)

                            • jedberg

                              yesterday at 7:54 PM

                              I seem to recall that the turbo button didn't come along until the 80286, but some of the PC clones had them before that.

                              My 486 definitely had a turbo button (that was the one I built after using the original PC for so many years).

                                • jasomill

                                  today at 12:07 AM

                                  AFAIK no first-party IBM PC ever had a turbo button, only clones, and my only personal recollection of pre-286 clones running significantly faster than 4.77 MHz were the Compaq Deskpro and AT&T PC 6300.

                                  I don't know about the PC 6300 — I only ever used it to run Aldus PageMaker, which, running under Windows on an 8086, could use all the speed it could get — but the Deskpro had a keystroke combination to switch between native and compatible speeds rather than a button.

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                                    • vasac

                                      yesterday at 8:02 PM

                                      The Turbo button worked wonders for Tetris. You start it with turbo turned on, so Tetris adjusts to the computer’s speed - but it only does this once, at startup. As soon as the blocks start falling, you turn the turbo off, and now your Tetris runs at half speed. I even managed, a few times, to roll over a score of 32,768 (ah, those signed integers).

                                      • hencq

                                        yesterday at 10:07 PM

                                        Hmm, maybe my memory is betraying me. I remember our first family computer was an XT and then later we had a 386. Maybe I'm misremembering and it was the 386 that had the turbo button or maybe the earlier one was a clone. My first own PC was a 486 as well that I built together with my dad. Good memories.

                            • qingcharles

                              yesterday at 10:43 PM

                              One of the PC games that worked great on the sorta-PC 186 RM Nimbus which a lot of British schools had in the 80s and 90s.

                              • kkotak

                                yesterday at 10:39 PM

                                Reminds me of Defender, a faster version with a 'Smart Bomb!' that was so fun to use :)

                                • nikolay

                                  yesterday at 9:13 PM

                                  I've spent endless hours playing Sopwith! What a legend!

                                  • stephenhuey

                                    yesterday at 7:51 PM

                                    Discovered this on an old Apple 2 in the 90s. Loved the basic physics of things like flying inverted or flying down low and then releasing a bomb while pulling up into a steep climb so the bomb would fly more laterally to a target.

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                                      • waltbosz

                                        yesterday at 7:57 PM

                                        I was just thinking of this game last night. I was wondering if AI could take the ASM and convert it into a browser game. Playable w/o DOSBOX.

                                        • NooneAtAll3

                                          yesterday at 7:14 PM

                                          I fondly remember what essentially is a more modern clone of Sopwith - "Pe-2 diving bomber"

                                          It is fun. Shoot-bomb-rearm/refuel in missions, upgrade your plane in between

                                          • jesse_dot_id

                                            yesterday at 7:20 PM

                                            This is the first computer game I remember playing on my brother's Commodore Colt. I was very bad at it.

                                            • ChrisArchitect

                                              yesterday at 8:22 PM

                                              More info on the SDL Sopwith port project https://fragglet.github.io/sdl-sopwith/

                                                • nikolay

                                                  yesterday at 9:20 PM

                                                  That's an outstanding port! Kudos!

                                              • migueldeicaza

                                                yesterday at 8:07 PM

                                                Did the site get slashdotted?

                                                • justinhj

                                                  yesterday at 6:57 PM

                                                  This game was so fun. I think there's a lot of unexplored game design in this style of 2d aviation.

                                                  The multiplayer game Altitude was a good modern example.

                                                    • sheiyei

                                                      yesterday at 7:57 PM

                                                      We had an awesome split screen dogfighting game on a Win98 PC where everyone had a Spitfire-like plane and tried to take the others down. You could land at your base and heal etc. Super fun. I think it was called Iron Birds? Don't think I've found it since.

                                                      • jauntywundrkind

                                                        yesterday at 7:06 PM

                                                        Lufteauser is a bigger space & higher motion, but has hit some good vibes for me, in this zone. Single player.

                                                        We were always begging the daycare to let us play this. Very solid.

                                                          • teamonkey

                                                            yesterday at 7:57 PM

                                                            Do you mean Luftrausers?

                                                              • jauntywundrkind

                                                                yesterday at 10:04 PM

                                                                Yes sorry thank you!

                                                        • lstodd

                                                          yesterday at 7:47 PM

                                                          Highfleet is nice.

                                                      • FpUser

                                                        yesterday at 10:23 PM

                                                        What a memory. I loved game.

                                                        • pavel_lishin

                                                          yesterday at 9:45 PM

                                                          I remember playing this game on my dad's computer, and being largely baffled at what I was supposed to do. Shoot, drop bombs, of course - but how do I land, refuel, how do the points work?

                                                          Still a core memory, though.

                                                          • contingencies

                                                            yesterday at 7:23 PM

                                                            Superior successor was Wings of Fury. The DOS version.

                                                            Honorable mention: Choplifter. Gameboy.

                                                            • fwip

                                                              yesterday at 9:17 PM

                                                              As a small kid, I learned how to use the DOS command line to launch this game on my parents' PC. I also remember really enjoying Sopwith 2, which added cows, among other things.

                                                              • AFF87

                                                                yesterday at 8:10 PM

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