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vali, a C library for Varlink

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  • sho_hn

    today at 7:58 AM

    Here's a C++/Qt one by KDE hacker David Edmundson: https://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/introducing-qtvarlink...

    • burstmode

      today at 9:49 AM

      So, there's another copy of CORBA. :-)

      • ongy

        today at 6:19 AM

        Huh, that way of doing asynchronicity is quite interesting.

        Though my Haskell and Rust primed brain really dislikes the way ownership of the memory allocation for the response struct works.

        It gets allocated by the caller (library), handed over to the function fully owned, and then gets consumed by the response function?

        • NewJazz

          today at 5:04 AM

          What does varlink do that grpc or capnproto don't offer? Hell, it doesn't even seem much batter than openapi...

            • emersion

              today at 5:38 AM

              The main use-case is different: gRPC and Cap'n'Proto are designed for networked servers, while D-Bus and Varlink are designed for local IPC. Varlink is a lot simpler than other alternatives.

                • sam_bristow

                  today at 6:10 AM

                  I've only had a cursory look at Varlink, but it almost felt too simple. In particular the lack of unsigned or sized integers.

                  This might enf up being be fine, but it gave me pause when I looked at it previously.

                    • wolletd

                      today at 6:39 AM

                      It's JSON with some simple idea of RPC added to it. With the main idea apparently being that it is human-readable.

                      We've been using Varlink for one project, but I've never found myself in a situation where I had any benefit from the data being JSON. You rarely read the raw data. But compared to gRPC or CapnProto, you lost compile-time type checking and now you need 10mins of testing a vending machine before you get a "key not found"-error because you missed one spot on renaming.

                      Also, I've written varlink-cpp building on asio and nl-json at some point: https://github.com/wolletd/varlink-cpp. But as our varlink usage declined, it never found much usage and isn't maintained.

                        • emersion

                          today at 6:51 AM

                          "you lost compile-time type checking" makes it sound like you haven't been using code generation? Varlink has an interface definition language which makes everything type-safe.

          • andrewshadura

            today at 7:39 AM

            I'm wondering why Varlink, while incredibly similar to JSON-RPC, is designed to be incompatible with it?

            • malkia

              today at 8:13 AM

              json, rpc, and that uint64_t bit integer